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AinurOlorin
Half-elven
Jan 11 2013, 10:03pm
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It isn't the being carried alone that is the problem, as I have said in earlier postage.
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It is more the circumstances. If it is very carefully portrayed, that is one thing. HOWEVER, if the circumstances imply or explicitly portray Galadriel as being so mighty that she can come into a situation where Gandalf is completely overwhelmed, and be unscathed by comparison and carry the "helpless" Wizard to safety. . . hell no. Tis too much. It isn't a matter of emasculation. I could care less about that. It is a matter of Galadriel becoming defined as, not merely ambiguously/possibly more powerful in some aspects than the Wizards, but of her potentially becoming defined as enormously more powerful than they, capable of winning battles (possibly with relative ease) that Gandalf cannot, and of defeating foes who are beyond them and coming away from it unmussed. They are on the edge of solidifying, in the minds of the lay audience, Galadriel as distinctly and definitively superior, in all aspects of both power, authority and status, to Ainur who were sent into Middle-Earth specifically for the guidance of ALL its people. She did some serious physical stuff. And I don't see it's emasculating Gandalf to have him being carried by a woman. Maybe it it were John McClane or Rambo, but Gandalf isn't a particularly masculine character to begin with. "Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!" "Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."
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Protesting in advance to the notion of Galadriel carrying Gandalf like a babe in arms, as though she were an angel of mercy.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 7:06am
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lol what makes you think this will happen? //
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lurtz2010
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Jan 11 2013, 7:27am
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It was reported in an EW article. There was a link to it in an earlier post on this board.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 7:50am
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Agreed
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JWPlatt
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Jan 11 2013, 8:33am
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That has been a worry since I heard Phillipa comment on Galadriel
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 8:48am
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I love the idea...
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Elutherian
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Jan 11 2013, 8:19am
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I can certainly see Gandalf
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Rolfina
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Jan 11 2013, 8:33am
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Do we know the circumstances of how he ends up over her shoulder?
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imin
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Jan 11 2013, 8:29am
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I am inclined to agree with you here.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 8:51am
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Yeah i wouldnt like it
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imin
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Jan 11 2013, 8:59am
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Girls generally aren't stupid.
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Bumblingidiot
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Jan 11 2013, 2:27pm
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I agree with this but it aint going to happen
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imin
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Jan 11 2013, 5:08pm
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They turned Aragorn into an exile
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Plurmo
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Jan 11 2013, 11:11pm
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It was fighting talk.
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Bumblingidiot
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Jan 12 2013, 2:13am
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That's a veritable lecture on Galadriel's power and the dangers of devotion.
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Plurmo
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Jan 12 2013, 5:46am
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'ultimate xena warrior' <- *gag* loool //
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Xanaseb
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Jan 11 2013, 2:28pm
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Faaaar out
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ElendilTheShort
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Jan 11 2013, 8:45am
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Just curious...
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frodolives
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Jan 12 2013, 2:20pm
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LOTR-Council of Elrond he is shorter than Elrond & Glorfindel although this does not neccessarily make him short
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ElendilTheShort
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Jan 12 2013, 9:08pm
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I'd accept it on one condition.
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Mooseboy018
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Jan 11 2013, 8:53am
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I'll wait to see how the scene plays out
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DanielLB
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Jan 11 2013, 9:03am
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Galadriel was hardcore in the Silmarillion
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Scourge of the Stoors
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Jan 11 2013, 9:37am
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Actually, nowhere in the SIL is there any detail of exactly what Galadriel did that was "hardcore"...
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Eleniel
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Jan 11 2013, 11:05am
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In The Silmarillion as written by J.R.R. Tolkien
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jan 11 2013, 3:45pm
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Yes, but that's not "detail"...
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Eleniel
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Jan 11 2013, 3:54pm
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I knew you were going to say that! //
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jan 11 2013, 3:56pm
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It isn't the being carried alone that is the problem, as I have said in earlier postage.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 10:03pm
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Wait and see....
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dormouse
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Jan 11 2013, 12:32pm
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A wait and see approach would have left you with Arwen at Helm's Deep. . .
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 10:08pm
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No, I don't believe it would.
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dormouse
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Jan 11 2013, 11:10pm
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Arwen at Helm's Deep
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Ardamírë
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Jan 11 2013, 11:56pm
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This.
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Arannir
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Jan 12 2013, 1:41pm
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We shall see...
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Lightice
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Jan 12 2013, 5:02pm
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Yet it was important, as it derailed Sauron's initial plan. The retreat and return to Mordor was
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 12 2013, 5:42pm
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It's impossible that Galadriel would carry Gandalf
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RalphDamiani
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Jan 11 2013, 12:37pm
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I'm not worried
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Kullervo
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Jan 11 2013, 1:00pm
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100% Agreed.
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Arannir
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Jan 11 2013, 1:05pm
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I don't get what there is to be upset about
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dubulous
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Jan 11 2013, 1:21pm
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I really wish that the straw man of whether or not she would be capable of carrying him would stop being raised.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 10:29pm
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Ridiculous scene
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stoutfiles
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Jan 11 2013, 1:24pm
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Funny you say it's made up by PJ
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Arthael
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Jan 11 2013, 3:43pm
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Thank you.
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 3:56pm
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It is made up by PJ
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stoutfiles
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Jan 11 2013, 4:04pm
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Why would floating be "predictable"?
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 4:13pm
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This is a very good point
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DanielLB
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Jan 11 2013, 4:19pm
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But let them all be bruised, certainly only him, nor all but her.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 11:30pm
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That would be "he".
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 11:50pm
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Galadriel is shown as otherworldly all the time
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stoutfiles
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Jan 11 2013, 4:22pm
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Just "what-ifs"?
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 4:25pm
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Galadriel is shown as otherworldly
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Kullervo
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Jan 11 2013, 4:35pm
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Hundred facepalms
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 1:33pm
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The scene is completely made up by PJ
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stoutfiles
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Jan 11 2013, 1:40pm
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*sigh*
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 1:55pm
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Okay, fair enough...
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Eleniel
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Jan 11 2013, 2:50pm
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My ideas based on magazine snippets
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TheSexyBeard
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Jan 11 2013, 11:44pm
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Thanks for clearing the air.
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Rostron2
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Jan 11 2013, 5:33pm
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Thank you Lightice!
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Beren0nehanded
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Jan 11 2013, 2:00pm
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How wrong you are. We have seen him defeated by Saruman, and placed in dire straits
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 10:22pm
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Does not compute.
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 10:38pm
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I agree....
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MorgolKing
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Jan 11 2013, 2:26pm
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There's little drama in the original Dol Guldur storyline...
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burrahobbit
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Jan 11 2013, 3:20pm
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We need to start a picket line in Wellington!
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Kassandros
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Jan 11 2013, 3:21pm
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Is this irony?
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Arannir
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Jan 11 2013, 4:26pm
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Sarcasm, not irony
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Kassandros
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Jan 11 2013, 5:34pm
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:D
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Arannir
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Jan 11 2013, 5:38pm
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Well said!
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ashonmytomatoes
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Jan 11 2013, 5:56pm
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No one is infallible
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Istaris'staffs
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Jan 11 2013, 5:14pm
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Um..
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MorgolKing
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Jan 11 2013, 5:26pm
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Why would Galadriel...
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Arannir
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Jan 11 2013, 5:36pm
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The TT movie does not show Galadriel's part in rescuing Gandalf
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Kassandros
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Jan 11 2013, 5:37pm
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That's the only thing
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Rostron2
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Jan 11 2013, 5:47pm
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Gandalf
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Nerven
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Jan 11 2013, 8:56pm
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Yes, well said, and I completely agree it's logical and plausible that she's powerful
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Rostron2
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Jan 11 2013, 9:46pm
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Exactly.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 12 2013, 1:56am
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Eru / Iluvatar
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sharku
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Jan 11 2013, 9:59pm
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what strikes me most about this
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Elenorflower
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Jan 11 2013, 11:40pm
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Galadriel vs The Istari
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Benevolent
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Jan 13 2013, 8:54pm
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