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AinurOlorin
Valinor

Jan 11, 8:51am
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I am inclined to agree with you here.
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My issue is not her being able to carry him, as I have no doubt she would certainly be strong enough to easily lift a man sized person. . . it is with the circumstances surrounding it. If they are portrayed as having been in the same fight, but her coming out relatively unscathed while he is not senseless and has to be rescued by her OR, if he is shown going and catching a beating, but then she shows up and floats in, kicks everyone's ass, and carries him out as a firefighter might, then it is a travesty. I mean maybe they were fighting and Gandalf went ahead - being a wizard after all and Galadriel being wise but more a councillor than a warrior - after a period of time he has not come back and she feels forced to go look for him, finds him incapacitated for whatever reason and helps him, the cause of his injury has fled. This would work i think in terms of - shows she is caring and brave but is not the ultimate xena-warrior elf who is better than Gandalf. It would also perhaps let the audience see that Gandalf is indeed 'stronger' than Galadriel is but what he was facing was his match - Sauron. Or perhaps they are just wanting young girls who are watching the movie to feel they have a role model - the perfect woman - kind, wise, brave, beautiful, strong etc. What Phillipa said makes me think it is more the second idea which is fine so long as they dont change the dynamic of their relationship which i think can be maintained if they play it out like something along the lines i said above. "Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!" "Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."
(This post was edited by AinurOlorin on Jan 11, 8:52am)
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Protesting in advance to the notion of Galadriel carrying Gandalf like a babe in arms, as though she were an angel of mercy.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11, 7:06am
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lol what makes you think this will happen? //
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lurtz2010
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Jan 11, 7:27am
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It was reported in an EW article. There was a link to it in an earlier post on this board.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11, 7:50am
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Agreed
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JWPlatt
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Jan 11, 8:33am
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That has been a worry since I heard Phillipa comment on Galadriel
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11, 8:48am
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I love the idea...
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Elutherian
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Jan 11, 8:19am
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I can certainly see Gandalf
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Rolfina
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Jan 11, 8:33am
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Do we know the circumstances of how he ends up over her shoulder?
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imin
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Jan 11, 8:29am
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I am inclined to agree with you here.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11, 8:51am
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Yeah i wouldnt like it
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imin
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Jan 11, 8:59am
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Girls generally aren't stupid.
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Bumblingidiot
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Jan 11, 2:27pm
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I agree with this but it aint going to happen
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imin
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Jan 11, 5:08pm
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They turned Aragorn into an exile
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Plurmo
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Jan 11, 11:11pm
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It was fighting talk.
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Bumblingidiot
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Jan 12, 2:13am
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That's a veritable lecture on Galadriel's power and the dangers of devotion.
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Plurmo
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Jan 12, 5:46am
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'ultimate xena warrior' <- *gag* loool //
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Xanaseb
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Jan 11, 2:28pm
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Faaaar out
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ElendilTheShort
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Jan 11, 8:45am
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Just curious...
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frodolives
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Jan 12, 2:20pm
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LOTR-Council of Elrond he is shorter than Elrond & Glorfindel although this does not neccessarily make him short
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ElendilTheShort
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Jan 12, 9:08pm
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I'd accept it on one condition.
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Mooseboy018
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Jan 11, 8:53am
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I'll wait to see how the scene plays out
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DanielLB
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Jan 11, 9:03am
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Galadriel was hardcore in the Silmarillion
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Scourge of the Stoors
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Jan 11, 9:37am
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Actually, nowhere in the SIL is there any detail of exactly what Galadriel did that was "hardcore"...
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Eleniel
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Jan 11, 11:05am
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In The Silmarillion as written by J.R.R. Tolkien
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jan 11, 3:45pm
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Yes, but that's not "detail"...
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Eleniel
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Jan 11, 3:54pm
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I knew you were going to say that! //
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jan 11, 3:56pm
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It isn't the being carried alone that is the problem, as I have said in earlier postage.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11, 10:03pm
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Wait and see....
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dormouse
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Jan 11, 12:32pm
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A wait and see approach would have left you with Arwen at Helm's Deep. . .
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11, 10:08pm
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No, I don't believe it would.
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dormouse
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Jan 11, 11:10pm
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Arwen at Helm's Deep
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Ardamírë
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Jan 11, 11:56pm
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This.
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Arannir
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Jan 12, 1:41pm
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We shall see...
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Lightice
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Jan 12, 5:02pm
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Yet it was important, as it derailed Sauron's initial plan. The retreat and return to Mordor was
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 12, 5:42pm
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It's impossible that Galadriel would carry Gandalf
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RalphDamiani
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Jan 11, 12:37pm
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I'm not worried
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Kullervo
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Jan 11, 1:00pm
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100% Agreed.
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Arannir
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Jan 11, 1:05pm
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I don't get what there is to be upset about
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dubulous
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Jan 11, 1:21pm
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I really wish that the straw man of whether or not she would be capable of carrying him would stop being raised.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11, 10:29pm
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Ridiculous scene
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stoutfiles
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Jan 11, 1:24pm
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Funny you say it's made up by PJ
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Arthael
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Jan 11, 3:43pm
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Thank you.
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Lightice
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Jan 11, 3:56pm
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It is made up by PJ
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stoutfiles
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Jan 11, 4:04pm
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Why would floating be "predictable"?
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Lightice
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Jan 11, 4:13pm
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This is a very good point
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DanielLB
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Jan 11, 4:19pm
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But let them all be bruised, certainly only him, nor all but her.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11, 11:30pm
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That would be "he".
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Lightice
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Jan 11, 11:50pm
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Galadriel is shown as otherworldly all the time
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stoutfiles
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Jan 11, 4:22pm
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Just "what-ifs"?
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Lightice
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Jan 11, 4:25pm
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Galadriel is shown as otherworldly
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Kullervo
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Jan 11, 4:35pm
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Hundred facepalms
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Lightice
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Jan 11, 1:33pm
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The scene is completely made up by PJ
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stoutfiles
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Jan 11, 1:40pm
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*sigh*
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Lightice
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Jan 11, 1:55pm
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Okay, fair enough...
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Eleniel
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Jan 11, 2:50pm
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My ideas based on magazine snippets
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TheSexyBeard
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Jan 11, 11:44pm
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Thanks for clearing the air.
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Rostron2
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Jan 11, 5:33pm
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Thank you Lightice!
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Beren0nehanded
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Jan 11, 2:00pm
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How wrong you are. We have seen him defeated by Saruman, and placed in dire straits
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11, 10:22pm
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Does not compute.
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Lightice
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Jan 11, 10:38pm
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I agree....
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MorgolKing
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Jan 11, 2:26pm
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There's little drama in the original Dol Guldur storyline...
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burrahobbit
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Jan 11, 3:20pm
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We need to start a picket line in Wellington!
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Kassandros
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Jan 11, 3:21pm
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Is this irony?
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Arannir
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Jan 11, 4:26pm
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Sarcasm, not irony
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Kassandros
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Jan 11, 5:34pm
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:D
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Arannir
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Jan 11, 5:38pm
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Well said!
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ashonmytomatoes
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Jan 11, 5:56pm
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No one is infallible
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Istaris'staffs
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Jan 11, 5:14pm
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Um..
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MorgolKing
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Jan 11, 5:26pm
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Why would Galadriel...
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Arannir
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Jan 11, 5:36pm
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The TT movie does not show Galadriel's part in rescuing Gandalf
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Kassandros
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Jan 11, 5:37pm
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That's the only thing
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Rostron2
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Jan 11, 5:47pm
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Gandalf
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Nerven
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Jan 11, 8:56pm
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Yes, well said, and I completely agree it's logical and plausible that she's powerful
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Rostron2
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Jan 11, 9:46pm
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Exactly.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 12, 1:56am
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Eru / Iluvatar
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sharku
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Jan 11, 9:59pm
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what strikes me most about this
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Elenorflower
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Jan 11, 11:40pm
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Galadriel vs The Istari
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Benevolent
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Jan 13, 8:54pm
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