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Myths vary depending on the telling

The Shire

Jan 4 2013, 8:12pm

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Myths vary depending on the telling [In reply to] Can't Post

It reminds me of Legolas' "Last king of Gondor" flub on the way to the Paths of the Dead in ROTK, as Isildur was not, of course, the last king of Gondor by a long shot. You can choose to look at such errors in a few ways:

1. It was just an error, so you can either ignore it or nitpick it.
2. You can come up with some kind of alternate interpretation of the line to make it fit with the established mythology.
3. You can just accept it as the film version's take on the mythology.

I usually go with option 3. The way I view the movies is simply as a new interpretation of the mythology that Tolkien created. I start with the (obviously fictional) premise that there really was some ancient tradition of myths that Tolkien stumbled upon, translated, cleaned up, expanded, and presented to us in the form of his novels. So that's one version. Jackson then came along and decided to reinvent those myths for his films, giving us another version. If you look at it that way, errors, inconsistencies, and contradictions between the films and books are much more easily accepted and forgiven.

How many versions of the King Arthur legend do we have, for example? When did his reign begin and end? What sort of men were Lancelot and Galahad? Was Morgan le Fay really evil? All of this varies depending on the telling. I think Middle-earth is rich enough to be considered its own mythology, and it probably has almost as much to do with reality as any other.

Subject User Time
The time between the fall of Erebor and The Unexpected Party easterlingchief1 Send a private message to easterlingchief1 Jan 4 2013, 7:05pm
    And what happened 400 years ago, anyway? N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Jan 4 2013, 7:18pm
        I think the "watchful peace" was after the Angmar battle, painjoiker Send a private message to painjoiker Jan 4 2013, 7:27pm
        The general notion is AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 4 2013, 7:52pm
            Myths vary depending on the telling percy Send a private message to percy Jan 4 2013, 8:12pm
                The Retelling of Myths: Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Jan 4 2013, 10:32pm
    Does it really matter? gar-mogoth Send a private message to gar-mogoth Jan 4 2013, 7:27pm
        Not really. easterlingchief1 Send a private message to easterlingchief1 Jan 4 2013, 8:54pm
        Storywise, it may matter. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Jan 5 2013, 12:16am
    Vagueness Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Jan 4 2013, 7:48pm
    Shouldn't Thorin appear older/greyer then? Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Jan 4 2013, 9:09pm
    Book vs. film Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jan 5 2013, 6:48pm


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