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You sound like Gandalf at the Last Debate

CuriousG
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Dec 31 2012, 10:02pm


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He warms them up with
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...It cannot be doubted that when Denethor saw great forces arrayed against him in Mordor, and more still being gathered, he saw that which truly is...This war then is without final hope...and prudence would counsel you to strengthen such strong places as you have, and there await the onset.


The odds are against them, as you put it, and reason would counsel them to despair, but he follows up with:

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I do not counsel prudence...I still hope for victory, but not by arms.


He's rejecting prudence/rational thinking and putting his faith in Frodo. And for one of the wisest of the Wise to do this, it's inspiring.

Did you have that passage in mind, or were you speaking more generally?

Subject User Time
Hobbits,Orcs, and the Human Condition Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Dec 18 2012, 10:20pm
    Hope in the face of a manifold of wickedness Entwife Wandlimb Send a private message to Entwife Wandlimb Dec 31 2012, 9:39pm
        You sound like Gandalf at the Last Debate CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 31 2012, 10:02pm
            Courage v. Fearlessness Entwife Wandlimb Send a private message to Entwife Wandlimb Jan 1 2013, 2:10am
    human essence Avanti Send a private message to Avanti Jan 9 2013, 10:12pm
        Please explain your Orcishness Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Jan 9 2013, 10:16pm
            why? Avanti Send a private message to Avanti Jan 9 2013, 10:32pm
                Hmm, an orc with internet access. Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Jan 9 2013, 10:57pm
                    Do orcs have any choice in life? They do exhibit choices Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Jan 9 2013, 11:19pm

 
 
 

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