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AinurOlorin
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Dec 30 2012, 12:59am
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Yet it was also a better film than Avengers, about which critic raved, giving a pass to
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any areas that lacked greater depth, if not rewarding them. I loved Avengers, but it wasn't as good a film as The Hobbit on many levels. And, no, it is not fair to hit The Hobbit so hard based on comparative values. Say, "it isn't as moving, or as powerful, or as well rendered as its film predecessors, but. . ." Don't nitpick it and trash it, despite it being good, because you hoped it would be better (the generic you, not you as an individual). http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/13/showbiz/movies/the-hobbit-review-charity/?hpt=en_c1 it seems that the critic enjoyed the LotR trilogy, has read The Hobbit book, and found the experience of AUJ extremely disappointing; a "major comedown, a muddle-headed and cumbersome piece of filmmaking that betrays Jackson's mercenary motives." So while AUJ is certainly not the worst film of the year (and shouldn't be number 1 in this chart), it does seem to be by far the most disappointing cinema experience of the year for this critic, as it was for me. No one would expect Resident Evil, a film from a computer game, or Breaking Dawn, a film from a cult teenage romance book, to be anything other than trash. I think however we can be forgiven for thinking a multi-oscar winning director adapting an acclaimed fantasy book had the potential to be great. "Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!" "Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."
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CNN: The Hobbit worst movie of 2012
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demnation
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Dec 29 2012, 12:17am
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That headline made me LOL //
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Escapist
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Dec 29 2012, 12:19am
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Why shouldn't a critic's opinion of a movie be affected by its appearance?
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 29 2012, 12:29am
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you would think
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BeornBerserker
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Dec 29 2012, 12:33am
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Critics are under no obligation to see a film twice.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 29 2012, 1:03am
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Fair enough, but we shouldn't have to hear about it next year.
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Dec 29 2012, 1:11am
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They won't be doing any critic screenings at 48fps next year.
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Crunchable Birdses
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Dec 29 2012, 1:13am
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Not if you opted to pile onto the soup with the optional sauce labled "extremely hot"
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 29 2012, 1:13am
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"...as standard blockbusters go..."
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Elizabeth
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Dec 29 2012, 2:15am
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Couldn't have said it better myself, Elizabeth. //
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Ardamírë
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Dec 29 2012, 2:32am
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Yeah, but The Hobbit is significantly lighter fare...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Dec 29 2012, 2:37am
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Some of the marketing did highlight connections between LoTR and TH
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Escapist
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Dec 29 2012, 2:55am
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Yet they tried to amp up the drama in Hobbit.
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Estel78
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Dec 29 2012, 5:52am
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The blame for failed expectations
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Escapist
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Dec 29 2012, 2:50am
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It is indeed, but it is a problem critics supposedly have some obligation to take into consideration, and to avoid falling into.
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 29 2012, 4:15am
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All the quieter charm of The Hobbit
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Elizabeth
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Dec 29 2012, 5:02am
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Many critics explicitly stated that they felt the film was too drawn out in the Bag End sequence...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Dec 29 2012, 5:04am
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In the prologue, maybe.
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Elizabeth
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Dec 29 2012, 5:42am
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I agree about the dwarves, but the critics certainly didn't.
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Dec 29 2012, 5:57am
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I think that tells you the big problem PJ had...
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moreorless
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Dec 29 2012, 2:20pm
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Personally, i think the film got most tedious
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 29 2012, 4:24pm
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Agreed about some of the action but not Azog
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moreorless
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Dec 29 2012, 5:34pm
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Yeah, when it comes to Azog,
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 29 2012, 6:02pm
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Seriously?? Gothmog was HORRIBLE.
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morgul lord
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Dec 29 2012, 8:39pm
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I have no feeling on Gothmog one way or the other really,
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 29 2012, 10:05pm
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Azog
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Ave Moria
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Dec 29 2012, 6:10pm
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Nope
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Ave Moria
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Dec 29 2012, 6:04am
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"That was Thorin's style. He was an important dwarf."
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 29 2012, 7:24am
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Sorry, I clearly hit a nerve!
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Elizabeth
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Dec 29 2012, 8:39am
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Well. . . they had a Wizard with them. Maybe one of the more subtle aspects of the magic
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 29 2012, 9:52am
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Except you can't really say "nope" to this.
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Captain Salt
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Dec 29 2012, 5:55pm
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Oh, I agree those were some of the best moments. But, with a notable few exceptions
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 29 2012, 9:34am
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I find this to be the funny thing about the critics
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redgiraffe
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Jan 3 2013, 11:12am
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Yeah, couldn't disagree more.
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Tim
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Dec 29 2012, 5:36am
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the problem is...
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Ave Moria
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Dec 29 2012, 5:48am
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I'm with ya
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Elessar
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Dec 29 2012, 2:20pm
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Couldn't agree more
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imin
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Dec 29 2012, 11:59am
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To be fair
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Elessar
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Dec 29 2012, 2:08pm
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I agree and disagree
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elostirion74
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Dec 30 2012, 2:43pm
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I suppose
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BeornBerserker
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Dec 29 2012, 1:41am
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But it is garbage to lambast a film based on a format that one did not have to see it in
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 29 2012, 12:39am
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So critics should not have seen the film in the new format touted by its director? //
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 29 2012, 12:51am
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I value a critic who can make a distinction between form and content.
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Bladerunner
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Dec 29 2012, 6:30am
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this is a fair point
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redgiraffe
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Dec 29 2012, 1:44am
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It's not a fair point.
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 29 2012, 1:58am
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but
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redgiraffe
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Dec 29 2012, 4:02am
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WTF???
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 29 2012, 12:32am
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It is customary for critics to focus their "worst lists" on ambitious or notable films.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 29 2012, 1:08am
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And what of the likes of Breaking Dawn, and even Resident Evil?
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 29 2012, 1:15am
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Love your posts
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Ave Moria
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Dec 29 2012, 2:13am
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Daaawwwww. *Blushing*
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 29 2012, 2:47am
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;)
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Ave Moria
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Dec 29 2012, 5:44am
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If you read the review...
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burrahobbit
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Dec 29 2012, 12:15pm
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I think it really invalidates his opinion a lot
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Silranhir
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Dec 29 2012, 12:37pm
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Yeah he is probably the only one i actively go out of my way to listen to
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imin
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Dec 29 2012, 12:48pm
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Hmm...
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burrahobbit
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Dec 29 2012, 1:02pm
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Three movies
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Arannir
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Dec 29 2012, 1:43pm
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One film
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Silranhir
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Dec 29 2012, 1:54pm
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A two film adaptation would be the best balance
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burrahobbit
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Dec 29 2012, 6:47pm
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Someone who puts Tarantinos latest copy & paste crap on his number 1 list
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Êleniel Tindome
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Dec 29 2012, 6:55pm
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Yet it was also a better film than Avengers, about which critic raved, giving a pass to
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 30 2012, 12:59am
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I felt Jackson invited the LotR comparison
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burrahobbit
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Dec 30 2012, 1:29am
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It'e entirely possible...
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Chainsaw Charlie
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Dec 30 2012, 7:30pm
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LMAO! The critics REALLY hated HFR, didn't they...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Dec 29 2012, 12:34am
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I find this amusing more than anything else.
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sharpened_graphite
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Dec 29 2012, 12:45am
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Worse than a Gerard Butler romcom?
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ryouko
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Dec 29 2012, 1:08am
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Oh, please!
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Captain Salt
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Dec 29 2012, 1:44am
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The stupidest thing I have heard in 2012
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Ave Moria
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Dec 29 2012, 2:10am
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It would interesting
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silneldor
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Dec 29 2012, 3:26am
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Seeking attention
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Elessar
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Dec 29 2012, 6:42am
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Attention seeking
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dubulous
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Dec 29 2012, 9:45am
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Surely he should be reviewing the film
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DanielLB
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Dec 29 2012, 10:14am
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Classical music critics comment on the acoustics of orchestral halls all the time.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 29 2012, 10:33am
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I don't really think people are saying 48fps shouldn't be mentioned.
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 29 2012, 2:47pm
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It should absolutely affect the review. It does in music.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 29 2012, 5:55pm
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Then proclaim it was the worst concert of the year
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Altaira
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Dec 29 2012, 6:22pm
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The forums are moving so fast that hardly anyone will see this post.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 31 2012, 12:23am
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Maybe i'm not expaining myself well enough...
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 29 2012, 7:40pm
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It's based on the following review
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burrahobbit
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Dec 29 2012, 11:36am
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Such a sad thing
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Corsair of Umbar
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Dec 29 2012, 4:27pm
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ugh
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Ave Moria
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Dec 29 2012, 4:53pm
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Ave Moria
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Corsair of Umbar
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Dec 29 2012, 5:52pm
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I don't think theres any need for that...
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moreorless
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Dec 29 2012, 7:20pm
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Nor is TH free from criticism either, or it shouldn't be. People are allowed to dislike it all they like, so to speak. //
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Captain Salt
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Dec 29 2012, 7:35pm
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I wasnt claiming it should be...
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moreorless
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Dec 29 2012, 8:09pm
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Agreed on that last sentiment, but my interjection was due to that
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Captain Salt
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Dec 29 2012, 11:31pm
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And I think that was the problem with some of the critics/reviews. They came with a cynical attitude
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 30 2012, 1:44am
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i went in with the opposite problem
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imin
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Dec 30 2012, 1:56am
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When you do, you may find much more that is good than action.
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 30 2012, 2:01am
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Those are all the parts i liked the first time round
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imin
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Dec 30 2012, 2:34am
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I cannot complain too much about Goblin town, thanks to the magic and Humphries.
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 30 2012, 6:26am
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I agree with you Corsair. //
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Elenorflower
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Dec 29 2012, 9:06pm
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Agreed
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moreorless
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Dec 29 2012, 6:01pm
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Sure I had a similar experience
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burrahobbit
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Dec 29 2012, 7:05pm
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I don't think it was greed from Jackson...
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moreorless
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Dec 29 2012, 7:39pm
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Agree about more drama in later chapters...
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burrahobbit
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Dec 30 2012, 12:40am
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A much harder call than FOTR for me...
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moreorless
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Dec 30 2012, 10:41am
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You wouldn't have to drop the Trolls, Beorn and the Eagles
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burrahobbit
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Dec 30 2012, 1:03pm
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My points were more that...
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moreorless
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Dec 30 2012, 2:01pm
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Suggestions for themes
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burrahobbit
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Dec 30 2012, 2:28pm
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The problem is I'd say...
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moreorless
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Dec 30 2012, 3:33pm
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Thorin
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arithmancer
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Dec 30 2012, 2:07pm
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I honestly don't see how they ever planned on making this two films.
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 30 2012, 1:20pm
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Indeed it will
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moreorless
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Dec 30 2012, 3:49pm
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Corsair??
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Ataahua
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Dec 29 2012, 11:23pm
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Ataahua
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Corsair of Umbar
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Dec 29 2012, 11:42pm
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:D
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Ataahua
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Dec 30 2012, 12:10am
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At least the commenters are giving the reviewer a run for his money. //
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Aragalen the Green
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Dec 29 2012, 4:42pm
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---> Personal comments have been edited out of this thread - it will be locked if they continue! //
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Altaira
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Dec 29 2012, 6:11pm
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This is typical CNN.
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Chainsaw Charlie
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Dec 29 2012, 8:17pm
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No critic ever talks about...
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Rostron2
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Dec 29 2012, 10:27pm
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Critics won't get fooled again?
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moreorless
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Dec 30 2012, 7:10pm
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