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Aragorn the Elfstone
Tol Eressea
Dec 29 2012, 5:04am
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Many critics explicitly stated that they felt the film was too drawn out in the Bag End sequence...
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Can't Post
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Most of the complaints I've read are directed squarely at that whole scene. So that is most definitely included in the "bloat" talk.
"All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds awake to find that it was vanity; But the dreamers of day are dangerous men. That they may act their dreams with open eyes to make it possible." - T.E. Lawrence
(This post was edited by Aragorn the Elfstone on Dec 29 2012, 5:10am)
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CNN: The Hobbit worst movie of 2012
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demnation
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Dec 29 2012, 12:17am
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That headline made me LOL //
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Escapist
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Dec 29 2012, 12:19am
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Why shouldn't a critic's opinion of a movie be affected by its appearance?
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 29 2012, 12:29am
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you would think
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BeornBerserker
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Dec 29 2012, 12:33am
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Critics are under no obligation to see a film twice.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 29 2012, 1:03am
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Fair enough, but we shouldn't have to hear about it next year.
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Dec 29 2012, 1:11am
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They won't be doing any critic screenings at 48fps next year.
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Crunchable Birdses
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Dec 29 2012, 1:13am
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Not if you opted to pile onto the soup with the optional sauce labled "extremely hot"
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 29 2012, 1:13am
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"...as standard blockbusters go..."
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Elizabeth
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Dec 29 2012, 2:15am
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Couldn't have said it better myself, Elizabeth. //
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Ardamírë
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Dec 29 2012, 2:32am
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Yeah, but The Hobbit is significantly lighter fare...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Dec 29 2012, 2:37am
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Some of the marketing did highlight connections between LoTR and TH
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Escapist
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Dec 29 2012, 2:55am
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Yet they tried to amp up the drama in Hobbit.
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Estel78
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Dec 29 2012, 5:52am
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The blame for failed expectations
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Escapist
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Dec 29 2012, 2:50am
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It is indeed, but it is a problem critics supposedly have some obligation to take into consideration, and to avoid falling into.
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 29 2012, 4:15am
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All the quieter charm of The Hobbit
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Elizabeth
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Dec 29 2012, 5:02am
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Many critics explicitly stated that they felt the film was too drawn out in the Bag End sequence...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Dec 29 2012, 5:04am
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In the prologue, maybe.
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Elizabeth
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Dec 29 2012, 5:42am
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I agree about the dwarves, but the critics certainly didn't.
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Dec 29 2012, 5:57am
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I think that tells you the big problem PJ had...
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moreorless
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Dec 29 2012, 2:20pm
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Personally, i think the film got most tedious
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 29 2012, 4:24pm
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Agreed about some of the action but not Azog
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moreorless
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Dec 29 2012, 5:34pm
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Yeah, when it comes to Azog,
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 29 2012, 6:02pm
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Seriously?? Gothmog was HORRIBLE.
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morgul lord
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Dec 29 2012, 8:39pm
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I have no feeling on Gothmog one way or the other really,
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 29 2012, 10:05pm
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Azog
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Ave Moria
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Dec 29 2012, 6:10pm
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Nope
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Ave Moria
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Dec 29 2012, 6:04am
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"That was Thorin's style. He was an important dwarf."
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 29 2012, 7:24am
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Sorry, I clearly hit a nerve!
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Elizabeth
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Dec 29 2012, 8:39am
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Well. . . they had a Wizard with them. Maybe one of the more subtle aspects of the magic
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 29 2012, 9:52am
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Except you can't really say "nope" to this.
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Captain Salt
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Dec 29 2012, 5:55pm
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Oh, I agree those were some of the best moments. But, with a notable few exceptions
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 29 2012, 9:34am
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I find this to be the funny thing about the critics
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redgiraffe
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Jan 3 2013, 11:12am
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Yeah, couldn't disagree more.
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Tim
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Dec 29 2012, 5:36am
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the problem is...
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Ave Moria
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Dec 29 2012, 5:48am
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I'm with ya
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Elessar
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Dec 29 2012, 2:20pm
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Couldn't agree more
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imin
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Dec 29 2012, 11:59am
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To be fair
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Elessar
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Dec 29 2012, 2:08pm
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I agree and disagree
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elostirion74
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Dec 30 2012, 2:43pm
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I suppose
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BeornBerserker
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Dec 29 2012, 1:41am
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But it is garbage to lambast a film based on a format that one did not have to see it in
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 29 2012, 12:39am
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So critics should not have seen the film in the new format touted by its director? //
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 29 2012, 12:51am
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I value a critic who can make a distinction between form and content.
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Bladerunner
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Dec 29 2012, 6:30am
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this is a fair point
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redgiraffe
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Dec 29 2012, 1:44am
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It's not a fair point.
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 29 2012, 1:58am
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but
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redgiraffe
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Dec 29 2012, 4:02am
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WTF???
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 29 2012, 12:32am
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It is customary for critics to focus their "worst lists" on ambitious or notable films.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 29 2012, 1:08am
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And what of the likes of Breaking Dawn, and even Resident Evil?
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 29 2012, 1:15am
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Love your posts
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Ave Moria
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Dec 29 2012, 2:13am
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Daaawwwww. *Blushing*
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 29 2012, 2:47am
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;)
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Ave Moria
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Dec 29 2012, 5:44am
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If you read the review...
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burrahobbit
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Dec 29 2012, 12:15pm
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I think it really invalidates his opinion a lot
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Silranhir
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Dec 29 2012, 12:37pm
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Yeah he is probably the only one i actively go out of my way to listen to
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imin
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Dec 29 2012, 12:48pm
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Hmm...
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burrahobbit
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Dec 29 2012, 1:02pm
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Three movies
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Arannir
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Dec 29 2012, 1:43pm
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One film
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Silranhir
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Dec 29 2012, 1:54pm
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A two film adaptation would be the best balance
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burrahobbit
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Dec 29 2012, 6:47pm
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Someone who puts Tarantinos latest copy & paste crap on his number 1 list
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Êleniel Tindome
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Dec 29 2012, 6:55pm
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Yet it was also a better film than Avengers, about which critic raved, giving a pass to
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 30 2012, 12:59am
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I felt Jackson invited the LotR comparison
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burrahobbit
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Dec 30 2012, 1:29am
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It'e entirely possible...
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Chainsaw Charlie
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Dec 30 2012, 7:30pm
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LMAO! The critics REALLY hated HFR, didn't they...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Dec 29 2012, 12:34am
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I find this amusing more than anything else.
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sharpened_graphite
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Dec 29 2012, 12:45am
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Worse than a Gerard Butler romcom?
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ryouko
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Dec 29 2012, 1:08am
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Oh, please!
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Captain Salt
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Dec 29 2012, 1:44am
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The stupidest thing I have heard in 2012
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Ave Moria
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Dec 29 2012, 2:10am
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It would interesting
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silneldor
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Dec 29 2012, 3:26am
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Seeking attention
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Elessar
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Dec 29 2012, 6:42am
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Attention seeking
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dubulous
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Dec 29 2012, 9:45am
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Surely he should be reviewing the film
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DanielLB
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Dec 29 2012, 10:14am
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Classical music critics comment on the acoustics of orchestral halls all the time.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 29 2012, 10:33am
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I don't really think people are saying 48fps shouldn't be mentioned.
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 29 2012, 2:47pm
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It should absolutely affect the review. It does in music.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 29 2012, 5:55pm
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Then proclaim it was the worst concert of the year
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Altaira
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Dec 29 2012, 6:22pm
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The forums are moving so fast that hardly anyone will see this post.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 31 2012, 12:23am
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Maybe i'm not expaining myself well enough...
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 29 2012, 7:40pm
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It's based on the following review
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burrahobbit
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Dec 29 2012, 11:36am
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Such a sad thing
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Corsair of Umbar
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Dec 29 2012, 4:27pm
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ugh
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Ave Moria
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Dec 29 2012, 4:53pm
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Ave Moria
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Corsair of Umbar
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Dec 29 2012, 5:52pm
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I don't think theres any need for that...
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moreorless
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Dec 29 2012, 7:20pm
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Nor is TH free from criticism either, or it shouldn't be. People are allowed to dislike it all they like, so to speak. //
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Captain Salt
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Dec 29 2012, 7:35pm
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I wasnt claiming it should be...
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moreorless
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Dec 29 2012, 8:09pm
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Agreed on that last sentiment, but my interjection was due to that
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Captain Salt
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Dec 29 2012, 11:31pm
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And I think that was the problem with some of the critics/reviews. They came with a cynical attitude
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 30 2012, 1:44am
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i went in with the opposite problem
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imin
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Dec 30 2012, 1:56am
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When you do, you may find much more that is good than action.
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 30 2012, 2:01am
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Those are all the parts i liked the first time round
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imin
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Dec 30 2012, 2:34am
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I cannot complain too much about Goblin town, thanks to the magic and Humphries.
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 30 2012, 6:26am
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I agree with you Corsair. //
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Elenorflower
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Dec 29 2012, 9:06pm
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Agreed
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moreorless
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Dec 29 2012, 6:01pm
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Sure I had a similar experience
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burrahobbit
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Dec 29 2012, 7:05pm
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I don't think it was greed from Jackson...
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moreorless
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Dec 29 2012, 7:39pm
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Agree about more drama in later chapters...
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burrahobbit
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Dec 30 2012, 12:40am
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A much harder call than FOTR for me...
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moreorless
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Dec 30 2012, 10:41am
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You wouldn't have to drop the Trolls, Beorn and the Eagles
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burrahobbit
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Dec 30 2012, 1:03pm
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My points were more that...
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moreorless
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Dec 30 2012, 2:01pm
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Suggestions for themes
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burrahobbit
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Dec 30 2012, 2:28pm
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The problem is I'd say...
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moreorless
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Dec 30 2012, 3:33pm
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Thorin
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arithmancer
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Dec 30 2012, 2:07pm
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I honestly don't see how they ever planned on making this two films.
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 30 2012, 1:20pm
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Indeed it will
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moreorless
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Dec 30 2012, 3:49pm
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Corsair??
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Ataahua
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Dec 29 2012, 11:23pm
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Ataahua
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Corsair of Umbar
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Dec 29 2012, 11:42pm
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:D
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Ataahua
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Dec 30 2012, 12:10am
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At least the commenters are giving the reviewer a run for his money. //
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Aragalen the Green
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Dec 29 2012, 4:42pm
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---> Personal comments have been edited out of this thread - it will be locked if they continue! //
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Altaira
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Dec 29 2012, 6:11pm
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This is typical CNN.
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Chainsaw Charlie
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Dec 29 2012, 8:17pm
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No critic ever talks about...
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Rostron2
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Dec 29 2012, 10:27pm
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Critics won't get fooled again?
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moreorless
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Dec 30 2012, 7:10pm
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