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AinurOlorin
Valinor
Dec 28 2012, 6:12pm
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I will say again, the character is fine, as I see him. His placement is horrendous, and is part of a larger flaw.
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The tale of the Dwarves, of the grief and rage of Thrain, and of the war of vengeance they launched to take retribution for the slaying of The Heir of Durin, is truly epic and staggeringly powerful. Nothing else would have brought all Seven Dwarf Houses together. Moria was not the ancestral home of The Other Six Houses (and they had never dwelt in Erebor, which Thror's far ancestor Thrain I had founded after Durin's House fled the inexorable wrath of The Balrog in Moria), but Durin was The Eldest of The Forefathers, and the first of their kind, and so greivous a desecration of his heir filled them with a special wrath and hatred. All of that is lost in this translation. The hunting "for Azog in every den under the mountains," is gone. There is unfounded talk of Azog having sworn to wipe out Durin's line, when in fact the almost polar reverse is true: when Azog desecrated the body of Thror, The Dwarves of every nation vowed to wipe HIM out, and they began a quasi-genocidal war against the goblin/orc race "sacking every stronghold of the orcs that they could find from Gundabad to The Gladden." We may yet see the real cause of the Dwarves decision to leave Moria to The Shadow, that being The Great Shadow within, who slew their ancestor kings with impunity, haunted their most dreadful nightmares and against whom their arms could not avail: The Balrog. There is at least hope that something of that may yet be maintained in latter flashbacks. But the rest has been mangled, and that could have been avoided by using Bolg in Azog's place. . . or even by a ressurection of Azog.
"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"
"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."
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I do not get the.....
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YaznegSouth40
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Dec 28 2012, 4:39pm
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So-tell us what you liked about Azog!
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Aragalen the Green
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Dec 28 2012, 4:43pm
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All I am saying....
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YaznegSouth40
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Dec 28 2012, 4:54pm
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Welcome to the internet.
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 28 2012, 4:58pm
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Azog badass
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Ęleniel Tindome
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Dec 28 2012, 5:02pm
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Bravo!
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painjoiker
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Dec 28 2012, 5:05pm
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I like his design and ...
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DanielLB
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Dec 28 2012, 5:09pm
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Sadly, that's the nature of a comment thread.
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Aragalen the Green
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Dec 28 2012, 6:50pm
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If this were the case
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DanielLB
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Dec 28 2012, 4:43pm
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I can suggest it
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Ardamírë
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Dec 28 2012, 5:06pm
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EY!
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painjoiker
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Dec 28 2012, 4:47pm
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i sorta get it
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unexpectedvisitor
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Dec 28 2012, 4:48pm
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Not quite the same as Lurtz
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Fredeghar Wayfarer
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Dec 28 2012, 8:38pm
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Very true, and well stated by you.
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 28 2012, 9:04pm
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Azog and Arwen
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Mahtion
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Dec 28 2012, 10:12pm
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Personally
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GothmogTheBalrog
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Dec 28 2012, 11:07pm
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In general
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Lindele
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Dec 28 2012, 5:02pm
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Exactly...Lindele...
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YaznegSouth40
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Dec 28 2012, 6:56pm
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Or it could be...
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Ardamírë
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Dec 28 2012, 6:58pm
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Well if you are going to make the argument
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Lindele
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Dec 28 2012, 7:08pm
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He looks worse than all of those
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Ardamírë
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Dec 28 2012, 7:09pm
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I'm saying
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Lindele
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Dec 28 2012, 7:16pm
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Perhaps it's....
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YaznegSouth40
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Dec 28 2012, 8:16pm
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Well, that's the nature of the world
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Eledhwen
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Dec 28 2012, 5:03pm
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Oh that is perfect.
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Ataahua
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Dec 28 2012, 8:12pm
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No one says they hate him like Hitler...
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Kassandros
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Dec 28 2012, 5:22pm
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Kassandros I understand that....
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YaznegSouth40
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Dec 28 2012, 7:07pm
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"The Warrior's of Nain, Gror's son, drove through the orcs. . . all the while they cried 'Azog! Azog!"
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 28 2012, 7:59pm
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On The Dwarves having Azog's name on their axes. . . I attempted editing this post
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 28 2012, 8:18pm
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Azog work for me
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Simon
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Dec 28 2012, 5:22pm
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I don't hate him,
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 28 2012, 5:25pm
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I will say again, the character is fine, as I see him. His placement is horrendous, and is part of a larger flaw.
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 28 2012, 6:12pm
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I highly agree!. I just can't tear myself away from that canon which is ingrained in my head :(. -that's- exactly what I've found wrong
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Xanaseb
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Dec 28 2012, 6:35pm
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Not a purist either.
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 28 2012, 6:53pm
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I think one can sum up the Azog-hate quite easily:
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Iowaboy
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Dec 28 2012, 6:44pm
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Couldn't have said it better Iowaboy
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IDLookout
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Dec 28 2012, 8:25pm
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I agree with you Iowaboy
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Elenorflower
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Dec 28 2012, 9:20pm
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edit: this comment had small beginnings
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unexpectedvisitor
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Dec 28 2012, 10:29pm
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Thank you for being so wonderfully insightful & optimistic! //
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RhodeCamelot
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Jan 1, 11:58am
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How about Jar Jar Binks?
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Ardamírë
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Dec 28 2012, 6:56pm
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I liked Azog - wayyy more than Gothmog from ROTK
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morgul lord
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Dec 28 2012, 11:04pm
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I loved the film
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Rostron2
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Dec 29 2012, 12:35am
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I too loved the movies and thought Azog was cool
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Ziggy Stardust
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Dec 29 2012, 1:37am
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