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"Blind you are, Morgoth Bauglir, and blind shall ever be"

N.E. Brigand
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Dec 28 2012, 4:50am


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In chapter 2, during the Battle of Unnumbered Tears, Hurin urges Turgon to flee, Turgon is reluctant, and Hurin says to him, "if it [i.e., Gondolin] stands only a little while ... then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men", and also, "from you and from me a new star shall arise".


It's not Hurin but his brother Huor who is speaking.


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Looking at the genealogies [..] Turgon's granddaughter is Idril


Idril is Turgon's daughter not his granddaughter.


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Idril's grandson is Elrond, Aragon's forefather


Aragon descends not from Elrond but from Elrond's brother, Elros.

As the others have said, the reference is to Earendil.

Notice that Huor, who said he prophesied "with the eyes of death", is soon killed by a poison arrow through the eye. I take this as Morgoth's attempt to poison the future.

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A new star... estelien Send a private message to estelien Dec 27 2012, 11:21pm
    I read both lines to refer to Earendil SilentLion Send a private message to SilentLion Dec 27 2012, 11:51pm
    Surely he means Earendil squire Send a private message to squire Dec 27 2012, 11:52pm
        Another reason to believe it's Earendil CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 28 2012, 6:02pm
        ah... estelien Send a private message to estelien Dec 31 2012, 7:55pm
    My favorite reference to the Star Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 28 2012, 4:18am
    "Blind you are, Morgoth Bauglir, and blind shall ever be" N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 28 2012, 4:50am
        I like this ! sador Send a private message to sador Dec 28 2012, 12:56pm
    explains Aragorn's cover name PhantomS Send a private message to PhantomS Jan 2 2013, 1:02pm
        Speaking of Earendil Nerven Send a private message to Nerven Jan 5 2013, 7:20pm
    Hurin, with the eyes of death Nolofinwe Send a private message to Nolofinwe Jan 12 2013, 5:53pm
        Huor, not Hurin. // N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Jan 14 2013, 12:02am
            huor/hurin Nolofinwe Send a private message to Nolofinwe Jan 14 2013, 3:48am

 
 
 

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