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Gandalf's temptation by the Ring (or Frodo)

CuriousG
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Dec 28 2012, 1:44am


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"Do not tempt me! For I do not wish to become like the Dark Lord himself. Yet the way of the Ring to my heart is by pity, pity for weakness and the desire of strength to do good."

It's not clear to me that he would be worse than Sauron, but equally bad, in his own words.

He echoes Galadriel's perspective:

Sam: "I wish you'd take his Ring. You'd put things to rights."

"I would," she said. "That is how it would begin. But it would not end there, alas!"

We're discussing on another thread Elrond's temptation to use the Ring. It seems to me the Wise would all agree on the same perilous result of using it. It is played out in Saruman, for that matter. His speech to Gandalf about using the Ring is all about the good they would do, not an evil cackle and "With it we shall destroy the world!" Saruman's speech is pretty creepy in his self-deception, now that I reread it:

"We may join with that Power [Sauron]...approving the high and ultimate purpose: Knowledge, Rule, Order...The Ruling Ring? If we could command that, then the Power would pass to us."

Subject User Time
Elrond and the ring Nerven Send a private message to Nerven Dec 15 2012, 3:48pm
    I find the text quite clear... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Dec 15 2012, 3:55pm
    "If so" ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Dec 15 2012, 6:29pm
        Elrond Nerven Send a private message to Nerven Dec 15 2012, 7:12pm
            I do not think ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Dec 15 2012, 11:30pm
                Another Nerven Send a private message to Nerven Dec 16 2012, 9:59am
                    I think so CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 16 2012, 4:25pm
                        Very nice analysis ltnjmy Send a private message to ltnjmy Dec 17 2012, 5:25pm
                            Especially Elrond... Nolofinwe Send a private message to Nolofinwe Dec 25 2012, 4:18pm
                                A moment of nostalgia sador Send a private message to sador Dec 25 2012, 9:32pm
                                    That Nerven Send a private message to Nerven Dec 26 2012, 10:17am
    Have often thought that Elrond is overlooked as a tragic figure SilentLion Send a private message to SilentLion Dec 26 2012, 7:43pm
        Were you responding to me? sador Send a private message to sador Dec 27 2012, 6:46am
            Yes, I meant my post as a reply to yours SilentLion Send a private message to SilentLion Dec 27 2012, 11:32pm
                Gandalf's temptation by the Ring (or Frodo) CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 28 2012, 1:44am
                    I think in one of his Letters, Tolkien speculates that Gandalf SilentLion Send a private message to SilentLion Dec 28 2012, 9:00pm
                        Like Pol Pot and bad bunnies CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 28 2012, 9:20pm
                            Good examples! SilentLion Send a private message to SilentLion Dec 28 2012, 10:10pm
                            Wait a second squire Send a private message to squire Dec 28 2012, 11:02pm
                                The point is taken that we need to be careful about SilentLion Send a private message to SilentLion Dec 30 2012, 12:38am
                                    Very interesting thoughts squire Send a private message to squire Dec 30 2012, 1:24am
                                        One wonders how Gandalf could be worse ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Dec 30 2012, 4:15am
                                Squire ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Dec 30 2012, 4:09am
        Just joking, but CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 28 2012, 1:30am

 
 
 

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