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SilentLion
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Dec 27 2012, 11:32pm
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Yes, I meant my post as a reply to yours
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Thanks for the kind words. There are always many interesting converstions here, and I enjoy joining in when I can. I guess maybe 'accept' wasn't the clearest choice of words. I didn't mean to imply that Elrond ever accepted Isildur's claim to the Ring as legitimate, but only that he accepted that trying to impose a different choice on Isildur would have resulted in a worse outcome. Sort of like the Valar 'accepted' the Feanor's decision to leave Valinor, because forcing another decision would have been an even worse outcome. The situation could have presented a particularly powerful temptation to Elrond, because he could have rationalized that seizing the ring from Isildur was in the best interests of the free peoples of Middle Earth, or even in the best interests of Isildur himself. I think somewhere Tolkien remarks that Gandalf would have been a worse tyrant than Sauron because Gandalf would have done everything in the firm belief that it was the moral thing to do. Elrond would have been a similar tyrant, had he succumbed to the temptation.
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Elrond and the ring
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Nerven
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Dec 15 2012, 3:48pm
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I find the text quite clear...
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Otaku-sempai
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Dec 15 2012, 3:55pm
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"If so"
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ElendilTheShort
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Dec 15 2012, 6:29pm
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Elrond
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Nerven
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Dec 15 2012, 7:12pm
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I do not think
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ElendilTheShort
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Dec 15 2012, 11:30pm
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Another
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Nerven
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Dec 16 2012, 9:59am
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I think so
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CuriousG
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Dec 16 2012, 4:25pm
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Very nice analysis
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ltnjmy
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Dec 17 2012, 5:25pm
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Especially Elrond...
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Nolofinwe
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Dec 25 2012, 4:18pm
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A moment of nostalgia
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sador
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Dec 25 2012, 9:32pm
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That
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Nerven
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Dec 26 2012, 10:17am
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Have often thought that Elrond is overlooked as a tragic figure
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SilentLion
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Dec 26 2012, 7:43pm
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Were you responding to me?
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sador
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Dec 27 2012, 6:46am
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Yes, I meant my post as a reply to yours
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SilentLion
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Dec 27 2012, 11:32pm
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Gandalf's temptation by the Ring (or Frodo)
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CuriousG
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Dec 28 2012, 1:44am
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I think in one of his Letters, Tolkien speculates that Gandalf
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SilentLion
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Dec 28 2012, 9:00pm
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Like Pol Pot and bad bunnies
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CuriousG
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Dec 28 2012, 9:20pm
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Good examples!
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SilentLion
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Dec 28 2012, 10:10pm
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Wait a second
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squire
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Dec 28 2012, 11:02pm
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The point is taken that we need to be careful about
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SilentLion
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Dec 30 2012, 12:38am
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Very interesting thoughts
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squire
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Dec 30 2012, 1:24am
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One wonders how Gandalf could be worse
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ElendilTheShort
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Dec 30 2012, 4:15am
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Squire
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ElendilTheShort
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Dec 30 2012, 4:09am
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Just joking, but
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CuriousG
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Dec 28 2012, 1:30am
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