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A"foresight"...

noWizardme
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Dec 27 2012, 12:33pm


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In the film, Gandalf says he doesn't know why Bilbo is important. That frustrated a friend of mine, but to me it seemed appropriate that Gandalf might at least sometimes operate on instinct. It might be part of the sometimes-glimpsed "higher powers at work" theme. So Gandalf says to Frodo, about Bilbo finding the Ring:


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"Behind that there was something else at work, beyond any design of the Ring-maker. I can put it no plainer than by saying that Bilbo was meant to have it. And that may be an encouraging thought."


So maybe it feels right to Gandalf because he is part of bringing about that "meant".

We get a little more of Gandalfs reasoning in "The Quest of Erebor"; Gandalfs description of Bilbos meeting with he dwarves(published as part of Unfinished Tales). Struggling to persuade Thorin to include the ridiculous Mr Baggins in the party, Gandalf finally says:

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" ' Listen to me, Thorin Oakenshield!' I said. 'If this hobbit goes with you, you will succeed. If not, you will fail. A foresight is on me, and I am warning you.' "


Subject User Time
"Why is Gandalf so eager for Bilbo to risk his life?" Entwife Wandlimb Send a private message to Entwife Wandlimb Dec 18 2012, 11:02pm
    Yes, you are right. Eärwen of Mithlond Send a private message to Eärwen of Mithlond Dec 19 2012, 5:26am
        I don't think it was as specific as hobbit smell CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 19 2012, 12:52pm
            A"foresight"... noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Dec 27 2012, 12:33pm
                Bilbo brought luck to the Erebor quest at times; maybe Gandalf saw that in him.// CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 28 2012, 1:26am
                "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit..." Entwife Wandlimb Send a private message to Entwife Wandlimb Dec 31 2012, 9:23pm
                    Hobbits as anachronisms noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Dec 31 2012, 9:31pm
                My apologies. Aragalen the Green Send a private message to Aragalen the Green Dec 31 2012, 11:43pm
    Perhaps to introduce the Shire-folk to future dangers? Aragalen the Green Send a private message to Aragalen the Green Dec 31 2012, 11:27pm
        The Shire study abroad program Entwife Wandlimb Send a private message to Entwife Wandlimb Jan 1 2013, 1:36am
            "we can't live long in the heights" Entwife Wandlimb Send a private message to Entwife Wandlimb Jan 1 2013, 2:13am
                "The memory of the high and the perilous" noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jan 1 2013, 9:48am
        I always thought of it this way, too Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Jan 8 2013, 11:01pm
            The Freedom of the Bachelor Entwife Wandlimb Send a private message to Entwife Wandlimb Jan 9 2013, 12:03am

 
 
 

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