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Nerven
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Dec 25 2012, 10:36am
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the Phial I wasn´t sure, but you make good points indicating it was due to Vardas help. So do you think that the phial doesn´t work by itself, only with help from Varda? Then it is a meaningless gift, unless Galadriel counted on Varda aiding the hobbits, but I think that is far- fetched. But regarding the rain and sunshine I was pretty sure Tolkien was hinting that it was due to Galadriels help and Galadriel seems to have control over water, in her action sending a mist to Eorl troops which pushed back Saurons darkness, you see a example of that, so I think she can make it rain, or let a mist appear.
(This post was edited by Nerven on Dec 25 2012, 10:42am)
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Help from Varda?
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Nerven
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Dec 23 2012, 4:00pm
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My bet is on Varda
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CuriousG
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Dec 24 2012, 11:07pm
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With
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Nerven
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Dec 25 2012, 10:36am
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Part of the wonder of Tolkien is that the workings of 'magic' are hidden, but I think both Varda and Galadriel
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SilentLion
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Dec 26 2012, 8:25pm
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Maybe both
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dubulous
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Dec 25 2012, 11:43am
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Eru
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Cyberia
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Dec 27 2012, 12:49am
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Mostly Ulmo, I think.
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Plurmo
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Dec 28 2012, 12:23am
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Fascinating argument, and very well-constructed.//
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CuriousG
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Dec 28 2012, 1:18am
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Thanks, CuriousG! I see I wrote "relatives" (of Frodo) instead of "parents."
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Plurmo
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Dec 28 2012, 3:04am
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Au contraire, quite enjoyable to read them//
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CuriousG
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Dec 28 2012, 6:05pm
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It
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Nerven
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Dec 28 2012, 6:49am
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You know the lore of the Phial. You saw it being made.
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Plurmo
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Dec 28 2012, 4:55pm
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"Do not touch the water" question
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CuriousG
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Dec 28 2012, 6:12pm
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I think It's mainly a mirror, actually.
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Plurmo
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Dec 30 2012, 9:42pm
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