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Nerven
Bree
Dec 23 2012, 4:00pm
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Help from Varda?
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When Frodo and Sam were in Shelobs lair, Sam suddenly knew the right words to say,words he never heared before, to activate the Phial. Now I wonder was it through Galadriel that he knew the words and that it shined so brightly or was it due to Vardas help.
Same with the change of weather, when Sam wished for water and daylight, after some time it happens. Is Galadriel responsable for that? Has she even the power to do so or was that also Varda?
What do you think?
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Nerven
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Dec 23 2012, 4:00pm
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My bet is on Varda
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CuriousG
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Dec 24 2012, 11:07pm
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Nerven
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Dec 25 2012, 10:36am
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Part of the wonder of Tolkien is that the workings of 'magic' are hidden, but I think both Varda and Galadriel
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SilentLion
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Dec 26 2012, 8:25pm
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Maybe both
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dubulous
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Dec 25 2012, 11:43am
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Eru
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Cyberia
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Dec 27 2012, 12:49am
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Mostly Ulmo, I think.
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Plurmo
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Dec 28 2012, 12:23am
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Fascinating argument, and very well-constructed.//
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CuriousG
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Dec 28 2012, 1:18am
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Thanks, CuriousG! I see I wrote "relatives" (of Frodo) instead of "parents."
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Plurmo
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Dec 28 2012, 3:04am
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Au contraire, quite enjoyable to read them//
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CuriousG
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Dec 28 2012, 6:05pm
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It
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Nerven
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Dec 28 2012, 6:49am
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You know the lore of the Phial. You saw it being made.
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Plurmo
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Dec 28 2012, 4:55pm
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"Do not touch the water" question
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CuriousG
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Dec 28 2012, 6:12pm
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I think It's mainly a mirror, actually.
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Plurmo
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Dec 30 2012, 9:42pm
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