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Elthir
Lorien
Dec 20 2012, 3:51am
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... in the same precise way in which you would analyse written words. It doesn't work like that. When someone gives an interview, the words that come out aren't all that precise, and they're spoken in a particular context, in response to a particular question. In the Colbert interview Jackson is quite clear as to what he means, especially as it echoes what he said in another interview. The context here is 'The Hobbit' - its relation to 'Lord of the Rings' and his adaptation of it - how he can make three films out a a single book. And in that context what he says is correct, as a broad outline of Tolkien's published fiction. The Hobbit came first, LotR was the sequel, and the Appendices, explaining and developing the background grew in the writing of that - and Tolkien did see inconsistencies between The Hobbit and the later work and he did consider rewriting. There is a lot of material in the Appendices which provides background information relating to The Hobbit. Yet none of this addresses the still incorrect sentence that I quoted from the Colbert Repor(t). Jackson did not merely say that Tolkien saw inconsistencies between the two works, nor merely that there is material in the Appendices which provides background information -- nor did he merely say that Tolkien considered revising The Hobbit. He said he understood that the Appendices were written with intent to revise The Hobbit. Not so. And context doesn't change this.
(This post was edited by Elthir on Dec 20 2012, 3:56am)
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Did Tolkien actually want to rewrite The Hobbit?
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Níniel
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Dec 17 2012, 5:02pm
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Yes, but not badly enough to complete a full revision...
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Otaku-sempai
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Dec 17 2012, 5:08pm
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thank you!
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Níniel
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Dec 17 2012, 5:13pm
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My source
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Otaku-sempai
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Dec 17 2012, 5:27pm
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Gosh, you're quick -
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geordie
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Dec 17 2012, 5:35pm
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If I might pop in -
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geordie
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Dec 17 2012, 5:34pm
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Wow, that's an interesting story!//
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Níniel
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Dec 17 2012, 5:39pm
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Just to add...
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Elthir
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Dec 17 2012, 9:08pm
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look for the Steven Colbert
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demanon
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Dec 18 2012, 1:12am
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Yes but...
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Elthir
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Dec 18 2012, 3:47am
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Well there might be some split hairs lying around here somewhere <checks the floor>
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Escapist
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Dec 18 2012, 3:57am
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But Peter Jackson has introduced the idea...
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Elthir
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Dec 18 2012, 5:23pm
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That sounds too precise to be warranted to me //
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Escapist
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Dec 18 2012, 5:28pm
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What exactly...
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Elthir
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Dec 18 2012, 5:30pm
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no //
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Escapist
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Dec 18 2012, 5:48pm
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when did he introduce this idea?//
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elevorn
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Dec 18 2012, 6:16pm
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Here, in this interview...
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Elthir
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Dec 18 2012, 6:47pm
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okay...
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elevorn
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Dec 18 2012, 7:05pm
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the issue at the moment
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Elthir
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Dec 18 2012, 8:59pm
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Philippa
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Ardamírë
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Dec 19 2012, 12:16am
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...and Fran perhaps don't know the appendices that well, either.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 19 2012, 1:11am
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It's interesting, to say the least
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Ardamírë
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Dec 19 2012, 3:40am
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If nobody minds, i'll just pop in this quote here -
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geordie
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Dec 18 2012, 6:38pm
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I read this a few days ago
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Ardamírë
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Dec 19 2012, 12:11am
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the smoke
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Elthir
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Dec 19 2012, 4:25am
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It's definitely odd
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Ardamírë
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Dec 19 2012, 5:06am
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TORN's Hobbit-movie forum is moving so fast right now
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 19 2012, 6:35pm
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I think it's a combination of some of these and something else -
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geordie
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Dec 19 2012, 7:31am
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Hmm
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macfalk
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Dec 19 2012, 10:55am
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Aragorn and Arwen
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Ardamírë
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Dec 19 2012, 2:59pm
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In my verision
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macfalk
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Dec 19 2012, 3:08pm
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Woah
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Ardamírë
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Dec 19 2012, 3:39pm
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Jackson's copy
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Elthir
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Dec 19 2012, 4:27pm
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I can't imagine a copy without the appendices
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Ardamírë
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Dec 19 2012, 5:17pm
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Not ten years -
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geordie
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Dec 19 2012, 6:55pm
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I suppose
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Ardamírë
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Dec 19 2012, 7:08pm
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To be fair this doesnt seem heavly implied...
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moreorless
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Jan 4, 10:58am
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But there are other interviews with him
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Ardamírë
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Jan 4, 5:25pm
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I've said it before - and please forgive the repitition....
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dormouse
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Dec 19 2012, 7:21pm
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That makes sense to me
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CuriousG
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Dec 19 2012, 9:29pm
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I can't agree, as...
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Elthir
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Dec 19 2012, 9:49pm
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Yes, but you're analysing words spoken in interview....
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dormouse
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Dec 19 2012, 11:27pm
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words
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Elthir
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Dec 20 2012, 3:51am
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Dont' forget all the interview back in July
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Ardamírë
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Dec 20 2012, 4:05am
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interviews
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Elthir
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Dec 20 2012, 4:17am
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Yes, but
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Ardamírë
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Dec 20 2012, 4:23am
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Well there is that question too
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Elthir
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Dec 20 2012, 4:28am
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I think what Dormouse says is true
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Ardamírë
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Dec 20 2012, 4:45am
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I love your comment
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CuriousG
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Dec 20 2012, 1:32pm
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Oh thank you!//
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Ardamírë
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Dec 20 2012, 4:39pm
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The PJ and P.Boyens bashing is getting tiresome
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macfalk
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Dec 20 2012, 9:49pm
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I suppose you're right
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CuriousG
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Dec 20 2012, 10:00pm
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Why are you injecting this into this thread
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Elthir
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Dec 20 2012, 10:08pm
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Yes...
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macfalk
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Dec 20 2012, 10:38pm
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Who exactly...
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Elthir
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Dec 20 2012, 10:45pm
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Please excuse me
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Níniel
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Dec 21 2012, 2:58am
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Well...
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Elthir
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Dec 21 2012, 3:36am
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JRRT's Rewrite
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Ostadan
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Dec 27 2012, 9:36pm
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I missed your article in August.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 27 2012, 11:40pm
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Interesting
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tolkienreborn
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Jan 1, 9:51am
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