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dormouse
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Dec 19 2012, 7:21pm
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I've said it before - and please forgive the repitition....
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... but I still think that when Peter Jackson said that about the Appendices being 'notes' which expanded the world of 'The Hobbit' - which I think was the sense in which it was meant - he was offering a brief outline of the development of Tolkien's published fiction - an interview soundbite rather than an in-depth analysis. If you look at his comment in that light it does work, in a way. The argument would run something like this: 1. Tolkien wrote 'The Hobbit'. It started out as a story for his children but became darker and more complex. 2. His publishers wanted a sequel. He wrote 'Lord of the Rings', which started where 'The Hobbit' left off, took decades to write and became darker and more complex still, eventually including a whole series of background notes to explain the backstory of the world he had created - the world which began, as far as the world was concerned, with 'The Hobbit'. So far as I know, PJ has only described the Appendix material in that way in the context of adapting 'The Hobbit' - specifically, in the context of enlarging the project to three films. That's how he explains what he's doing and in that sense he's not wrong: Tolkien's published 'Middle Earth' fiction begins with 'The Hobbit' and expands into 'Lord of the Rings', with a whole series of background notes on the culture and history of that imagined world. It's just that, viewed apart from the film, there's a whole level of creation he's leaving out - the original mythology that seeped into The Hobbit and underlies Lord of the Rings and the Appendices. And in the circumstances in which he's speaking - explaining his adaptation for the film - it seems reasonable to leave all that out. It would only complicate the picture for the interviewer, who really wants to know about the film, not the books.
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Did Tolkien actually want to rewrite The Hobbit?
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Níniel
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Dec 17 2012, 5:02pm
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Yes, but not badly enough to complete a full revision...
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Otaku-sempai
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Dec 17 2012, 5:08pm
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thank you!
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Níniel
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Dec 17 2012, 5:13pm
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My source
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Otaku-sempai
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Dec 17 2012, 5:27pm
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Gosh, you're quick -
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geordie
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Dec 17 2012, 5:35pm
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If I might pop in -
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geordie
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Dec 17 2012, 5:34pm
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Wow, that's an interesting story!//
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Níniel
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Dec 17 2012, 5:39pm
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Just to add...
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Elthir
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Dec 17 2012, 9:08pm
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look for the Steven Colbert
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demanon
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Dec 18 2012, 1:12am
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Yes but...
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Elthir
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Dec 18 2012, 3:47am
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Well there might be some split hairs lying around here somewhere <checks the floor>
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Escapist
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Dec 18 2012, 3:57am
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But Peter Jackson has introduced the idea...
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Elthir
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Dec 18 2012, 5:23pm
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That sounds too precise to be warranted to me //
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Escapist
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Dec 18 2012, 5:28pm
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What exactly...
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Elthir
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Dec 18 2012, 5:30pm
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no //
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Escapist
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Dec 18 2012, 5:48pm
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when did he introduce this idea?//
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elevorn
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Dec 18 2012, 6:16pm
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Here, in this interview...
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Elthir
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Dec 18 2012, 6:47pm
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okay...
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elevorn
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Dec 18 2012, 7:05pm
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the issue at the moment
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Elthir
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Dec 18 2012, 8:59pm
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Philippa
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Ardamírë
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Dec 19 2012, 12:16am
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...and Fran perhaps don't know the appendices that well, either.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 19 2012, 1:11am
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It's interesting, to say the least
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Ardamírë
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Dec 19 2012, 3:40am
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If nobody minds, i'll just pop in this quote here -
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geordie
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Dec 18 2012, 6:38pm
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I read this a few days ago
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Ardamírë
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Dec 19 2012, 12:11am
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the smoke
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Elthir
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Dec 19 2012, 4:25am
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It's definitely odd
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Ardamírë
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Dec 19 2012, 5:06am
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TORN's Hobbit-movie forum is moving so fast right now
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 19 2012, 6:35pm
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I think it's a combination of some of these and something else -
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geordie
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Dec 19 2012, 7:31am
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Hmm
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macfalk
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Dec 19 2012, 10:55am
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Aragorn and Arwen
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Ardamírë
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Dec 19 2012, 2:59pm
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In my verision
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macfalk
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Dec 19 2012, 3:08pm
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Woah
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Ardamírë
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Dec 19 2012, 3:39pm
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Jackson's copy
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Elthir
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Dec 19 2012, 4:27pm
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I can't imagine a copy without the appendices
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Ardamírë
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Dec 19 2012, 5:17pm
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Not ten years -
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geordie
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Dec 19 2012, 6:55pm
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I suppose
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Ardamírë
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Dec 19 2012, 7:08pm
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To be fair this doesnt seem heavly implied...
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moreorless
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Jan 4 2013, 10:58am
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But there are other interviews with him
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Ardamírë
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Jan 4 2013, 5:25pm
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I've said it before - and please forgive the repitition....
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dormouse
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Dec 19 2012, 7:21pm
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That makes sense to me
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CuriousG
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Dec 19 2012, 9:29pm
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I can't agree, as...
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Elthir
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Dec 19 2012, 9:49pm
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Yes, but you're analysing words spoken in interview....
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dormouse
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Dec 19 2012, 11:27pm
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words
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Elthir
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Dec 20 2012, 3:51am
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Dont' forget all the interview back in July
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Ardamírë
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Dec 20 2012, 4:05am
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interviews
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Elthir
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Dec 20 2012, 4:17am
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Yes, but
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Ardamírë
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Dec 20 2012, 4:23am
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Well there is that question too
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Elthir
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Dec 20 2012, 4:28am
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I think what Dormouse says is true
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Ardamírë
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Dec 20 2012, 4:45am
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I love your comment
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CuriousG
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Dec 20 2012, 1:32pm
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Oh thank you!//
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Ardamírë
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Dec 20 2012, 4:39pm
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The PJ and P.Boyens bashing is getting tiresome
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macfalk
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Dec 20 2012, 9:49pm
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I suppose you're right
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CuriousG
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Dec 20 2012, 10:00pm
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Why are you injecting this into this thread
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Elthir
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Dec 20 2012, 10:08pm
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Yes...
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macfalk
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Dec 20 2012, 10:38pm
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Who exactly...
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Elthir
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Dec 20 2012, 10:45pm
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Please excuse me
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Níniel
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Dec 21 2012, 2:58am
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Well...
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Elthir
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Dec 21 2012, 3:36am
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JRRT's Rewrite
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Ostadan
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Dec 27 2012, 9:36pm
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I missed your article in August.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 27 2012, 11:40pm
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Interesting
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tolkienreborn
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Jan 1 2013, 9:51am
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