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the issue at the moment

Elthir
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Dec 18 2012, 8:59pm


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So is the issue that he refers to the Appendices as notes? or that he incorrectly understands when they were added on?

Rather the issue is that he states [and also elsewhere implies] that the Appendices were notes made with the intention of actually revising The Hobbit.



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Tolkien wrote "The Quest For Erebor" it was unfinished and published by Christopher in "Unfinished Tales". It also exists in the Appendices and is quite similar in nature is it not?


It survived somewhat. As I noted already, Tolkien said it was cut out of the Appendices to lighten the boat.


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PJ only had access to the Appendices of LOTR so he couldn;t really go around saying they used "Quest for Erebor" for script writing stuff, so somewhere in the conversation of script writing they probably took up the language of calling them notes, which, I mean they kind of are notes meant to fill in the gaps of the history writing style of the book.

But not 'notes' [even if one calls them that] intended to revise The Hobbit. And Tolkien did revise The Hobbit in 1951, and again in the 1960s as well.



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I felt more like Peter wanted Stephen to talk about it and for himself to come across as ignorant to any other story other than what they had access to. Plus, how many interviews had he done and how much sleep had he had? I know those guys do a whirlwind of interviews in one day.


As geordie and I have provided, Peter Jackson has noted this elsewhere. By virtue of ultimately asking Stephen about it one could say that he reveals that he wasn't sure, but he still raised the matter yet again [as he had in print], first explaining [in this interview] that this was the case as he understood it, or heard it -- then asks if it's true.

And I think Peter Jackson must have had time -- even to give the job to someone else -- to investigate this before talking to the press, or to Stephen Colbert.


(This post was edited by Elthir on Dec 18 2012, 9:01pm)

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Did Tolkien actually want to rewrite The Hobbit? Níniel Send a private message to Níniel Dec 17 2012, 5:02pm
    Yes, but not badly enough to complete a full revision... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Dec 17 2012, 5:08pm
        thank you! Níniel Send a private message to Níniel Dec 17 2012, 5:13pm
            My source Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Dec 17 2012, 5:27pm
                Gosh, you're quick - geordie Send a private message to geordie Dec 17 2012, 5:35pm
            If I might pop in - geordie Send a private message to geordie Dec 17 2012, 5:34pm
                Wow, that's an interesting story!// Níniel Send a private message to Níniel Dec 17 2012, 5:39pm
    Just to add... Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Dec 17 2012, 9:08pm
        look for the Steven Colbert demanon Send a private message to demanon Dec 18 2012, 1:12am
            Yes but... Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Dec 18 2012, 3:47am
    Well there might be some split hairs lying around here somewhere <checks the floor> Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Dec 18 2012, 3:57am
        But Peter Jackson has introduced the idea... Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Dec 18 2012, 5:23pm
            That sounds too precise to be warranted to me // Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Dec 18 2012, 5:28pm
                What exactly... Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Dec 18 2012, 5:30pm
                    no // Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Dec 18 2012, 5:48pm
            when did he introduce this idea?// elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Dec 18 2012, 6:16pm
                Here, in this interview... Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Dec 18 2012, 6:47pm
                    okay... elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Dec 18 2012, 7:05pm
                        the issue at the moment Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Dec 18 2012, 8:59pm
                            Philippa Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 19 2012, 12:16am
                                ...and Fran perhaps don't know the appendices that well, either. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 19 2012, 1:11am
                                    It's interesting, to say the least Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 19 2012, 3:40am
            If nobody minds, i'll just pop in this quote here - geordie Send a private message to geordie Dec 18 2012, 6:38pm
                I read this a few days ago Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 19 2012, 12:11am
                    the smoke Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Dec 19 2012, 4:25am
                        It's definitely odd Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 19 2012, 5:06am
                        TORN's Hobbit-movie forum is moving so fast right now N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 19 2012, 6:35pm
                    I think it's a combination of some of these and something else - geordie Send a private message to geordie Dec 19 2012, 7:31am
                        Hmm macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Dec 19 2012, 10:55am
                        Aragorn and Arwen Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 19 2012, 2:59pm
                            In my verision macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Dec 19 2012, 3:08pm
                                Woah Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 19 2012, 3:39pm
                            Jackson's copy Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Dec 19 2012, 4:27pm
                                I can't imagine a copy without the appendices Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 19 2012, 5:17pm
                                    Not ten years - geordie Send a private message to geordie Dec 19 2012, 6:55pm
                                        I suppose Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 19 2012, 7:08pm
                    To be fair this doesnt seem heavly implied... moreorless Send a private message to moreorless Jan 4 2013, 10:58am
                        But there are other interviews with him Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Jan 4 2013, 5:25pm
            I've said it before - and please forgive the repitition.... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Dec 19 2012, 7:21pm
                That makes sense to me CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 19 2012, 9:29pm
                I can't agree, as... Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Dec 19 2012, 9:49pm
                    Yes, but you're analysing words spoken in interview.... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Dec 19 2012, 11:27pm
                        words Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Dec 20 2012, 3:51am
                            Dont' forget all the interview back in July Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 20 2012, 4:05am
                                interviews Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Dec 20 2012, 4:17am
                                    Yes, but Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 20 2012, 4:23am
                                        Well there is that question too Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Dec 20 2012, 4:28am
                                            I think what Dormouse says is true Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 20 2012, 4:45am
                                                I love your comment CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 20 2012, 1:32pm
                                                    Oh thank you!// Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 20 2012, 4:39pm
    The PJ and P.Boyens bashing is getting tiresome macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Dec 20 2012, 9:49pm
        I suppose you're right CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 20 2012, 10:00pm
        Why are you injecting this into this thread Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Dec 20 2012, 10:08pm
            Yes... macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Dec 20 2012, 10:38pm
                Who exactly... Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Dec 20 2012, 10:45pm
        Please excuse me Níniel Send a private message to Níniel Dec 21 2012, 2:58am
            Well... Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Dec 21 2012, 3:36am
    JRRT's Rewrite Ostadan Send a private message to Ostadan Dec 27 2012, 9:36pm
        I missed your article in August. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 27 2012, 11:40pm
    Interesting tolkienreborn Send a private message to tolkienreborn Jan 1 2013, 9:51am

 
 
 

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