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It's all obviously moved to TDoS

redgiant
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Dec 17 2012, 7:17pm


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They will have whatever flashback they need to ensure Gandalf's visits to Dol Guldur are explained. He got the map and key from Thrain II already so they have to at some point. There is zero chance they will have an alternate plot point as to how he got those, it would make Arwen at Helm's Deep seem like canon.

They probably figured they might as well save all of Gandalf's involvement to push the charade that he hadn't been there for a while, to give more dramatic reveals to what really went on for TDoS.

PJ loves his layered reveals and flashbacks. He has layered the flashback themselves to show more on each reveal (like the Last Alliance shown what, 3 times with each one delving a bit further: ring cut off hand, then Isildur picking up the ring, then ring shrinking to fit on finger and Elrond saying Destroy It).

They are saving Thrain II and Necromancer for later, so they can't show much of what they filmed of Gandalf there.


(This post was edited by redgiant on Dec 17 2012, 7:19pm)

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2 scenes in the trailer. Warrior 3000 Send a private message to Warrior 3000 Dec 17 2012, 3:13pm
    EE I assume stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Dec 17 2012, 3:22pm
    Here is why... chrism628 Send a private message to chrism628 Dec 17 2012, 3:23pm
        But why include the Dol Guldur scenes in AUJ's second trailer when Arandir Send a private message to Arandir Dec 17 2012, 4:28pm
            I think Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 17 2012, 4:44pm
                I see ... Arandir Send a private message to Arandir Dec 17 2012, 5:18pm
                    You're welcome! Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 17 2012, 5:25pm
                Makes sense to me. Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Dec 17 2012, 6:12pm
                    I hope it's put back in Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 17 2012, 6:47pm
                        we're gonna get plenty of Dol Guldur unexpectedvisitor Send a private message to unexpectedvisitor Dec 17 2012, 7:09pm
                            I just think there should have been more Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 17 2012, 7:14pm
                        It's all obviously moved to TDoS redgiant Send a private message to redgiant Dec 17 2012, 7:17pm
                            But what about the tombs? Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 17 2012, 7:20pm
                                Glamdring isn't present in the trailer redgiant Send a private message to redgiant Dec 17 2012, 11:15pm
                                    I'm fairly certain Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 18 2012, 2:19am
            precedent There&ThereAgain Send a private message to There&ThereAgain Dec 17 2012, 7:08pm
    Honestly Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 17 2012, 3:31pm
    As we're talking deleted scenes... Carne Send a private message to Carne Dec 17 2012, 3:35pm
        Thanks for this! Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Dec 17 2012, 3:44pm
        Good list dave_lf Send a private message to dave_lf Dec 17 2012, 3:49pm
        Thanks... MorgolKing Send a private message to MorgolKing Dec 17 2012, 3:51pm
            They're spread throughout these videos: Carne Send a private message to Carne Dec 17 2012, 3:56pm
                Ok MorgolKing Send a private message to MorgolKing Dec 17 2012, 4:22pm
        i know i might be in the minority unexpectedvisitor Send a private message to unexpectedvisitor Dec 17 2012, 6:00pm
        There is more ! Findun Send a private message to Findun Dec 17 2012, 6:37pm
            The last two were in the film :-) / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Dec 17 2012, 6:42pm
                Ouch Findun Send a private message to Findun Dec 17 2012, 6:43pm
                    The last shot is only very brief DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Dec 17 2012, 6:45pm
                        Aaah Findun Send a private message to Findun Dec 17 2012, 6:46pm
        Thanks, Carne Kendalf Send a private message to Kendalf Dec 18 2012, 2:47pm

 
 
 

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