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Wholesome Hollin and Homely Houses

CuriousG
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Dec 17 2012, 6:35pm


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Yes, you got my meaning. I think I didn't clarify my context with that quote about Hollin being wholesome. I should have said that even without the power of rings, Hollin became a better place to live because Elves enrich every environment they call home. (We see the same can be said of northern Mirkwood with no ring involved.) So by the same token, Rivendell, Lindon, and Lorien would have been better-than-average places to live before the Three Rings were there, and they probably would have reverted to that better-than-average status, but that would be a steep letdown from their Ring-enhanced sublime atmosphere.

Additionally, the more I think about it, I think that when Galadriel said they were doomed to become "a rustic folk of dell and cave, slowly to forget and to be forgotten," she was anticipating the rise of Men and the overall decline of the Eldar which was already happening. Lorien and Rivendell couldn't return to their pre-Ring status because of this world decline in Elvish fortunes; they were going to sink lower than they had ever been before. Only Vilya's and Nenya's powers of preservation were staving off that deterioration.


(This post was edited by CuriousG on Dec 17 2012, 6:37pm)

Subject User Time
Saruman and the Three Rings (of the Elves) Eärwen of Mithlond Send a private message to Eärwen of Mithlond Dec 14 2012, 6:56am
    Saruman the White Hanky PhantomS Send a private message to PhantomS Dec 15 2012, 12:36am
    Oh, he knew CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 15 2012, 6:58pm
        "You ruined your Three Rings..." Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Dec 15 2012, 11:28pm
            One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to bind them Felagund Send a private message to Felagund Dec 16 2012, 12:35am
                Then... Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Dec 16 2012, 3:42am
                    Apparently there's a flaw inherent in Ring-of-Power making. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 16 2012, 4:53am
                        It was Smallbottle in Jan. 2004. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 16 2012, 5:33am
                        golden flaw Felagund Send a private message to Felagund Dec 16 2012, 4:48pm
                    A few possibilities CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 16 2012, 4:59pm
                        my thoughts exactly telain Send a private message to telain Dec 17 2012, 6:07pm
                            Wholesome Hollin and Homely Houses CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 17 2012, 6:35pm
                                going slightly off-topic... telain Send a private message to telain Dec 18 2012, 3:15pm
                                    It does sound a bit haughty; and, a contradiction for Galadriel? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 18 2012, 7:57pm
                                        interesting! telain Send a private message to telain Dec 20 2012, 1:46pm
                                        The elven rings didn't enchant the lands Cyberia Send a private message to Cyberia Dec 21 2012, 12:13am
                                            Yes, she didn't need Saruman to taunt her with her fate CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 21 2012, 1:11am
                                        Galadriel spent most of the (post-exile) First Age in Doriath SilentLion Send a private message to SilentLion Dec 26 2012, 4:50pm
                                            I Nerven Send a private message to Nerven Dec 26 2012, 5:41pm
                                            The defense of Lorien Cyberia Send a private message to Cyberia Dec 27 2012, 12:32am
                                                That Nerven Send a private message to Nerven Dec 27 2012, 1:10pm
                                            Great point. I overlooked Melian's mentorship.// CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 28 2012, 1:48am
            was it not elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Dec 17 2012, 3:24pm
        This definitely confirms the point Eärwen of Mithlond Send a private message to Eärwen of Mithlond Dec 18 2012, 7:01am
            Your point makes sense to me too CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 18 2012, 1:59pm
                Yeah Eärwen of Mithlond Send a private message to Eärwen of Mithlond Dec 19 2012, 5:17am

 
 
 

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