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CuriousG
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Dec 17 2012, 6:35pm
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Wholesome Hollin and Homely Houses
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Yes, you got my meaning. I think I didn't clarify my context with that quote about Hollin being wholesome. I should have said that even without the power of rings, Hollin became a better place to live because Elves enrich every environment they call home. (We see the same can be said of northern Mirkwood with no ring involved.) So by the same token, Rivendell, Lindon, and Lorien would have been better-than-average places to live before the Three Rings were there, and they probably would have reverted to that better-than-average status, but that would be a steep letdown from their Ring-enhanced sublime atmosphere.
Additionally, the more I think about it, I think that when Galadriel said they were doomed to become "a rustic folk of dell and cave, slowly to forget and to be forgotten," she was anticipating the rise of Men and the overall decline of the Eldar which was already happening. Lorien and Rivendell couldn't return to their pre-Ring status because of this world decline in Elvish fortunes; they were going to sink lower than they had ever been before. Only Vilya's and Nenya's powers of preservation were staving off that deterioration.
(This post was edited by CuriousG on Dec 17 2012, 6:37pm)
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Saruman and the Three Rings (of the Elves)
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Eärwen of Mithlond
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Dec 14 2012, 6:56am
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Saruman the White Hanky
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PhantomS
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Dec 15 2012, 12:36am
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Oh, he knew
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CuriousG
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Dec 15 2012, 6:58pm
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"You ruined your Three Rings..."
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Elizabeth
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Dec 15 2012, 11:28pm
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One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to bind them
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Felagund
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Dec 16 2012, 12:35am
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Then...
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Elizabeth
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Dec 16 2012, 3:42am
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Apparently there's a flaw inherent in Ring-of-Power making.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 16 2012, 4:53am
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It was Smallbottle in Jan. 2004.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 16 2012, 5:33am
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golden flaw
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Felagund
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Dec 16 2012, 4:48pm
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A few possibilities
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CuriousG
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Dec 16 2012, 4:59pm
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my thoughts exactly
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telain
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Dec 17 2012, 6:07pm
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Wholesome Hollin and Homely Houses
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CuriousG
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Dec 17 2012, 6:35pm
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going slightly off-topic...
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telain
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Dec 18 2012, 3:15pm
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It does sound a bit haughty; and, a contradiction for Galadriel?
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CuriousG
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Dec 18 2012, 7:57pm
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interesting!
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telain
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Dec 20 2012, 1:46pm
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The elven rings didn't enchant the lands
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Cyberia
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Dec 21 2012, 12:13am
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Yes, she didn't need Saruman to taunt her with her fate
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CuriousG
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Dec 21 2012, 1:11am
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Galadriel spent most of the (post-exile) First Age in Doriath
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SilentLion
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Dec 26 2012, 4:50pm
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I
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Nerven
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Dec 26 2012, 5:41pm
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The defense of Lorien
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Cyberia
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Dec 27 2012, 12:32am
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That
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Nerven
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Dec 27 2012, 1:10pm
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Great point. I overlooked Melian's mentorship.//
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CuriousG
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Dec 28 2012, 1:48am
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was it not
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elevorn
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Dec 17 2012, 3:24pm
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This definitely confirms the point
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Eärwen of Mithlond
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Dec 18 2012, 7:01am
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Your point makes sense to me too
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CuriousG
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Dec 18 2012, 1:59pm
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Yeah
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Eärwen of Mithlond
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Dec 19 2012, 5:17am
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