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telain
Rohan
Dec 17 2012, 6:07pm
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As for...
I think it's fair to say that if you made the iPhone version 1, you could figure out how to bend the version 2 to your will even if you didn't make it yourself. I think it's a good analogy and I won't tell The Professor if you don't... So not only did Gollum not know what he had, but neither did Bilbo when he possessed the one Ring. And since Bilbo was not really a much more powerful force than Gollum, it makes sense that he did not have control over the other Rings either (either through lack of power, lack of intent, or both.) I wonder here is lack of intent and lack of power works both ways -- since Bilbo does not use the Ring wittingly nor maliciously, he does not seem to suffer from its inherent evilness. I wonder how long he might have lasted, keeping the Ring in his possession... With "preservation of realms", I always find Tolkien's interaction between place and people to be so, so interesting. In reference to the land changing after the three Elvish Rings were removed, I wonder if perhaps that is a legacy of Sauron's, erm, "technology". Though I am not sure that Gandalf was referring to the three Rings when he said
"There is a wholesome air about Hollin. Much evil must befall a country before it wholly forgets the Elves." Here perhaps it was simply the interaction between the people and the place Tolkien was emphasizing?
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Saruman and the Three Rings (of the Elves)
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Eärwen of Mithlond
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Dec 14 2012, 6:56am
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Saruman the White Hanky
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PhantomS
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Dec 15 2012, 12:36am
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Oh, he knew
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CuriousG
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Dec 15 2012, 6:58pm
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"You ruined your Three Rings..."
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Elizabeth
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Dec 15 2012, 11:28pm
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One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to bind them
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Felagund
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Dec 16 2012, 12:35am
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Then...
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Elizabeth
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Dec 16 2012, 3:42am
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Apparently there's a flaw inherent in Ring-of-Power making.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 16 2012, 4:53am
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It was Smallbottle in Jan. 2004.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 16 2012, 5:33am
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golden flaw
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Felagund
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Dec 16 2012, 4:48pm
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A few possibilities
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CuriousG
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Dec 16 2012, 4:59pm
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my thoughts exactly
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telain
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Dec 17 2012, 6:07pm
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Wholesome Hollin and Homely Houses
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CuriousG
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Dec 17 2012, 6:35pm
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going slightly off-topic...
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telain
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Dec 18 2012, 3:15pm
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It does sound a bit haughty; and, a contradiction for Galadriel?
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CuriousG
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Dec 18 2012, 7:57pm
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interesting!
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telain
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Dec 20 2012, 1:46pm
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The elven rings didn't enchant the lands
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Cyberia
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Dec 21 2012, 12:13am
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Yes, she didn't need Saruman to taunt her with her fate
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CuriousG
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Dec 21 2012, 1:11am
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Galadriel spent most of the (post-exile) First Age in Doriath
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SilentLion
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Dec 26 2012, 4:50pm
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I
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Nerven
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Dec 26 2012, 5:41pm
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The defense of Lorien
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Cyberia
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Dec 27 2012, 12:32am
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That
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Nerven
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Dec 27 2012, 1:10pm
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Great point. I overlooked Melian's mentorship.//
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CuriousG
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Dec 28 2012, 1:48am
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was it not
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elevorn
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Dec 17 2012, 3:24pm
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This definitely confirms the point
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Eärwen of Mithlond
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Dec 18 2012, 7:01am
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Your point makes sense to me too
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CuriousG
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Dec 18 2012, 1:59pm
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Yeah
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Eärwen of Mithlond
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Dec 19 2012, 5:17am
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