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Felagund
Rohan
Dec 16 2012, 4:48pm
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Good memory NE Brigand - the Ring Primer is great! As well as the flaw in the very creation of the Three Rings (an Elvish transgression elaborated on in Tolkien's Letters 131 & 181), there's also a potential issue in the material used to forge those Rings or indeed the other Rings of Power. The "Myths Transformed" chapter of HoMe: Morgoth's Ring I cited earlier contains a couple of interesting quotes on the nature of gold: "...Morgoth's power was disseminated throughout Gold." and, "...all gold (in Middle-earth) seems to have had an especially 'evil' trend - but not silver." With this in mind, we perhaps shouldn't be surprised that the One Ring's base metal was gold. However, at least one of the Three Rings was gold (set with a sapphire) - Vilya, first borne by Gil-galad and later Elrond. Nenya, we learn, was made of mithril (set with an adamant / diamond) but I can't find a reference to Narya's base metal other than that it was set with a ruby. Of the other Rings of Power, the Seven are described as golden (The Sil, "Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age"), each the foundation of seven great hoards. As for the Nine, I can't find specific references to the base metal used. At any rate, at least eight of the Rings of Power bound to the One Ring were forged of gold - a metal described by Tolkien as especially tainted by the original Shadow. Interestingly, even though Sauron wasn't able to dominate the Dwarf-lords through the Seven Rings there is a direct connection made between their possession of those Rings and "an overmastering greed of gold... of which evil enough after came..." (The Sil, "Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age"). The mania of Thráin in the wake of Azanulbizar, of Thorin in interlude between the death of Smaug and the Battle of the Five Armies, and also the sad end the Master of Lake-town are also all linked with gold.
Welcome to the Mordorfone network, where we put the 'hai' back into Uruk
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Saruman and the Three Rings (of the Elves)
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Eärwen of Mithlond
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Dec 14 2012, 6:56am
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Saruman the White Hanky
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PhantomS
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Dec 15 2012, 12:36am
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Oh, he knew
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CuriousG
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Dec 15 2012, 6:58pm
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"You ruined your Three Rings..."
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Elizabeth
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Dec 15 2012, 11:28pm
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One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to bind them
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Felagund
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Dec 16 2012, 12:35am
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Then...
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Elizabeth
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Dec 16 2012, 3:42am
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Apparently there's a flaw inherent in Ring-of-Power making.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 16 2012, 4:53am
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It was Smallbottle in Jan. 2004.
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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 16 2012, 5:33am
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golden flaw
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Felagund
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Dec 16 2012, 4:48pm
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A few possibilities
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CuriousG
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Dec 16 2012, 4:59pm
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my thoughts exactly
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telain
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Dec 17 2012, 6:07pm
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Wholesome Hollin and Homely Houses
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CuriousG
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Dec 17 2012, 6:35pm
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going slightly off-topic...
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telain
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Dec 18 2012, 3:15pm
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It does sound a bit haughty; and, a contradiction for Galadriel?
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CuriousG
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Dec 18 2012, 7:57pm
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interesting!
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telain
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Dec 20 2012, 1:46pm
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The elven rings didn't enchant the lands
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Cyberia
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Dec 21 2012, 12:13am
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Yes, she didn't need Saruman to taunt her with her fate
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CuriousG
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Dec 21 2012, 1:11am
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Galadriel spent most of the (post-exile) First Age in Doriath
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SilentLion
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Dec 26 2012, 4:50pm
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I
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Nerven
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Dec 26 2012, 5:41pm
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The defense of Lorien
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Cyberia
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Dec 27 2012, 12:32am
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That
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Nerven
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Dec 27 2012, 1:10pm
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Great point. I overlooked Melian's mentorship.//
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CuriousG
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Dec 28 2012, 1:48am
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was it not
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elevorn
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Dec 17 2012, 3:24pm
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This definitely confirms the point
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Eärwen of Mithlond
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Dec 18 2012, 7:01am
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Your point makes sense to me too
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CuriousG
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Dec 18 2012, 1:59pm
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Yeah
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Eärwen of Mithlond
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Dec 19 2012, 5:17am
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