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Dec 12 2012, 3:58pm


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However, my understanding of Bombadil from some of the things that he said lead me to believe that he was master of his own domain, and by extension was restricted to that. So the question then is whether or not he was able to be as powerful outside of his own lands.

Sauron's power was in fear and deception, and only at the greatest need did he come to actually fight. Defeating him seems to be more of a matter of getting to him. Kind of like Morgoth. He was big bad and scarey but Tulkas still whooped his butt when he got his hands on him.

Really I think all of the Maiar are pretty evenly matched, so I would say Gandalf(white and Grey) Saruman, the Balrog, were all on the same level it was just a matter of personality and how they chose to use their power. Galadriel is indeed the most powerful Elf in Middle Earth at the time. On another thread they were discussing the msytery of Galadriel and how the Valar must have breathed a sigh of relief when she rejected the One Ring. Taking the one she would trumped them all for a time as she would have had Sauron's powers until it corrupted her and she became a wraith like the Nazgul.

The Nazgul are certainly scarey and have potentially some great powers but like their mastery their power is in fear and dread. I'm not sure how the witch king would have had any more power than the rest. They were all slaves to the will of Sauron and thus could really do nothing without his command.

The Noldor are another matter indeed. It seems their spirits and tenacity imbue them with a far greater power when combined with the Light of Valinor. So they are definitely high ranking, the ones that are left at that time.

In the end I do think that the top three would be:
Sauron
Gandalf the White
Galadriel

I put Gandalf the white ahead because of his race. As the white I would daresay that he was capable of almost anything at need. If you think about the reason the Istari are there is because the Valar have unfinished business with Sauron. They caught Morgoth, but Sauron slunk away. Knowing that that bit of their war of wrath was unfinished, I can logically see that Gandalf would have eventually defeated Sauron even if it came down to hand to hand combat or a battel of power. This is the servant of Morgoth versus the herald of Manwe (Yes I know he spent more time with Lorien, but I do believe his name comes up in connection with the Lord of the Valar as well). But in the end, Sauron falls because of a small piece of jewelry. How like a man, One ring rules them all lol.



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The Most Powerful of the Third Age Carnivoran Send a private message to Carnivoran Dec 11 2012, 7:13pm
    I really Nerven Send a private message to Nerven Dec 11 2012, 9:21pm
        What do you think of Elrond vs the Nazgul? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 11 2012, 9:32pm
            I Nerven Send a private message to Nerven Dec 11 2012, 9:44pm
            A herald in battle would be a worthy leader and formidable fighter themselves ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Dec 14 2012, 10:50am
    Welcome! And great question CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 11 2012, 9:25pm
        Nice list Carnivoran Send a private message to Carnivoran Dec 11 2012, 11:07pm
        Like your list elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Dec 12 2012, 3:58pm
            Agree on Gandalf CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 12 2012, 4:05pm
    They are all Maiar Aule Send a private message to Aule Dec 20 2012, 5:55pm
        Where does it say that the Eagles are Maiar? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 20 2012, 6:28pm
            Thorondor Aule Send a private message to Aule Dec 20 2012, 6:38pm
                Gwaihir CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 20 2012, 6:52pm
                    Correction Aule Send a private message to Aule Dec 20 2012, 7:27pm
                Are you thinking of the fell beast? JessCej Send a private message to JessCej Dec 28 2012, 12:00am
            Some eagles: Maiar or not Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Dec 30 2012, 1:58pm
                And Ungoliant CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 30 2012, 4:41pm
                    Oops CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 30 2012, 5:44pm
                        Ungoliant's origin ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Dec 30 2012, 8:29pm
    i don't go in for this sort of thing much geordie Send a private message to geordie Dec 20 2012, 6:47pm
        I agree they don't rank neatly CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Dec 20 2012, 7:04pm
    Power is definitely situational and varying Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Dec 20 2012, 7:08pm

 
 
 

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