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Phibbus
Rohan
Dec 11 2012, 2:54am
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Neuroscientists are still working this stuff out, and they haven't gotten much further with tangible measurements than flies' eyes (and they change their minds frequently.)
But I do have another question ... if we automatically create blur when things move too fast in real life, why wouldn't we perceive/create blur if the things we are looking at in real life are things on a screen? I know that the blur we see in reality isn't "really there". What about the screen capture stops a person from creating the blur as usual? Is it dependent on how we have trained our eyes to see? Is that the whole point of this comment I am replying to? Picture the case of someone's hand moving across your field of vision in the period of one second. After the first 48th of a second, it will have moved a short distance across that field. In real life, during that 48th of a second, the person's hand would have been in an infinite number of intervening positions, and your eye would have received all of them as sensory stimulusŤ. Your brain cannot process all of that information; it captures a certain amount of it as recognizable images of the hand, and the rest it interprets as a blur (which is greatly oversimplifying, but that's the long-and-short of it.)
Now, if you were filming that same hand moving across the the camera's frame at 48fps, the same infinite number of positions that the hand passed through in that first 48th of a second would be reduced to two still images separated by a given amount of space. The infinite information that occurred between those two frames is not present for your eye to receive as stimulus, and your brain will not supply it or trick itself into thinking it is present.
Man is but an ass if he go about to expound this dream.
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How come PJ never saw any problems with 48 fps?
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Danielos
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Dec 10 2012, 6:43am
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Well among the critics it is like hit and miss
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utku
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Dec 10 2012, 6:48am
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Why are you saying nobody seems to like it?
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Tim
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Dec 10 2012, 6:49am
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There's nothing "wrong" with it, per se....
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Dec 10 2012, 6:56am
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As long as we can choose how we see the movie
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Notanelvishname
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Dec 10 2012, 7:24am
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Traditionalist film lover I am - but still one in his '20s...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Dec 10 2012, 7:29am
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And that's my point ;)
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Notanelvishname
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Dec 10 2012, 7:47am
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The Lucas Effect
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JWPlatt
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Dec 10 2012, 7:06am
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I am a PROPONENT of HFR (as of today, at least!)
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Danielos
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Dec 10 2012, 8:03am
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Where The Heck Did I Put My Sarcasm Meter?
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JWPlatt
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Dec 10 2012, 8:37am
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HFR
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herzogian
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Dec 10 2012, 7:49am
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It reduces motion blur, which benefits 3D...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Dec 10 2012, 7:54am
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I don't think that
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Notanelvishname
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Dec 10 2012, 9:34am
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HFR
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herzogian
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Dec 10 2012, 11:00am
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Good point
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Durhil
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Dec 10 2012, 11:10am
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I see your point
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Notanelvishname
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Dec 10 2012, 11:35am
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Sweet jesus
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Jax_Teller
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Dec 10 2012, 12:19pm
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I suspect the post was tongue in cheek...
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Notanelvishname
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Dec 10 2012, 12:24pm
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Bomby went to tbe LOTR Extended Edition Marathon
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Bombadil
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Dec 10 2012, 2:01pm
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Benny Hill, etc.
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Artemis Roach
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Dec 10 2012, 7:15pm
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We do not really know why yet
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Finrod
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Dec 10 2012, 7:46pm
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Ebert and Maxivision48
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Artemis Roach
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Dec 10 2012, 7:55pm
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I saw a Siskel & Ebert back in the 80s
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 10 2012, 8:09pm
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AC/DC
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Artemis Roach
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Dec 10 2012, 8:32pm
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Con-current
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Phibbus
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Dec 10 2012, 9:30pm
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Edison thread?
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Finrod
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Dec 10 2012, 9:48pm
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Sorry
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Phibbus
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Dec 11 2012, 12:55am
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Some people like it, some people don't.
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DanielLB
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Dec 10 2012, 8:02am
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Because he watched 48fps for hours and hours
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Morok Cloudkeeper
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Dec 10 2012, 8:03am
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I guess it is only a matter of getting used to it
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The Preciousss
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Dec 10 2012, 8:14am
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Exactly
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Morok Cloudkeeper
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Dec 10 2012, 8:37am
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This may sound harsh but...
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FiliSonOfDis
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Dec 10 2012, 8:52am
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why is everyone using the word "flopped"??
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Chopsta123
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Dec 10 2012, 9:44am
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Recent science supports the "adaptation" idea
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DwellerInDale
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Dec 10 2012, 8:54am
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Good reference
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Phibbus
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Dec 10 2012, 1:51pm
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It is a good thing, shooting at HFR does not give us super visual processing power
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R11
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Dec 10 2012, 10:59pm
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Thank you for the informations
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Notanelvishname
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Dec 11 2012, 12:25am
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Blur again
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Phibbus
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Dec 11 2012, 1:03am
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That's surprising!
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Escapist
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Dec 11 2012, 1:11am
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Clarification
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Phibbus
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Dec 11 2012, 1:23am
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Anime
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Artemis Roach
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Dec 11 2012, 1:30am
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Mostly
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JWPlatt
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Dec 11 2012, 2:33am
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It sounds like this may be related to what a person is "used to"
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Escapist
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Dec 11 2012, 2:08am
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They aren't stupid questions.
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Artemis Roach
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Dec 11 2012, 2:14am
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Indeed, no stupid questions
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Phibbus
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Dec 11 2012, 2:54am
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Forgive me if I'm being dim.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Dec 11 2012, 10:07am
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Sorry, I'm sure I'm not explaining terribly well
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Phibbus
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Dec 12 2012, 4:08pm
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I think you're being unduly negative
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dormouse
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Dec 10 2012, 2:09pm
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Sarcasm Loves Company
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JWPlatt
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Dec 10 2012, 4:58pm
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Oh - was it sarcasm?
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dormouse
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Dec 10 2012, 7:28pm
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Notice: This Is A Sarcastic Thread
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JWPlatt
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Dec 10 2012, 8:10pm
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Well...
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LordotRings93
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Dec 10 2012, 3:26pm
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It was a mistake to show it to critics
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frodolives
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Dec 10 2012, 4:29pm
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I think that mistake was done in CinemaCon 2012
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utku
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Dec 10 2012, 4:37pm
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Who says he didn't?
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dave_lf
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Dec 10 2012, 4:43pm
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Who knows how many people are seeing this correctly-projected...
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sycorax82
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Dec 10 2012, 4:46pm
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Everybody doesn't have a problem with 48 FPS ...
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Escapist
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Dec 11 2012, 1:00am
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