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Finrod
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Dec 10 2012, 7:46pm
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What I don't understand: If you shoot in 24 fps and play back in 24 fps, it doesn't look sped up. If you shoot in 30 fps and play back in 30 fps, it doesn't look sped up. Ergo, theoretically, if you shoot in 48 fps and play back in 48 fps, it should NOT look sped up, UNLESS the projector is not up to the task. the critics reporting abnormally fast motion just don't realize that they're just not used to it. I think it’s more than that. We don’t really understand what’s going on yet. It seems to have to do with how your brain perceives motion, both speed and acceleration considered separately, when viewing frames like this. If you watch the same scene shot at 12, 18, 24, 30, 48, 60, 120 fps, they do not seem to move at the same speed, even though they in fact do so. One theory is that you are getting twice as much info at 48 fps as you are used to getting at 24 fps, so your brain assumes that there must be more motion occurring. We don’t yet understand what causes all this, nor whether it is permanent. It seems not to be, because kids used to 60 fps games never even notice it. Nor, apparently, do the filmmakers, who presumably got used to it reviewing footage in putting it together. We don’t know. Yet. Time will tell.
…all eyes looked upon the ring; for he held it now aloft, and the green jewels gleamed there that the Noldor had devised in Valinor. For this ring was like to twin serpents, whose eyes were emeralds, and their heads met beneath a crown of golden flowers, that the one upheld and the other devoured; that was the badge of Finarfin and his house.The Silmarillion, pp 150-151 while Felagund laughs beneath the treesin Valinor and comes no more to this grey world of tears and war.The Lays of Beleriand, p 311
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How come PJ never saw any problems with 48 fps?
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Danielos
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Dec 10 2012, 6:43am
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Well among the critics it is like hit and miss
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utku
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Dec 10 2012, 6:48am
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Why are you saying nobody seems to like it?
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Tim
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Dec 10 2012, 6:49am
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There's nothing "wrong" with it, per se....
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Dec 10 2012, 6:56am
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As long as we can choose how we see the movie
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Notanelvishname
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Dec 10 2012, 7:24am
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Traditionalist film lover I am - but still one in his '20s...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Dec 10 2012, 7:29am
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And that's my point ;)
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Notanelvishname
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Dec 10 2012, 7:47am
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The Lucas Effect
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JWPlatt
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Dec 10 2012, 7:06am
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I am a PROPONENT of HFR (as of today, at least!)
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Danielos
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Dec 10 2012, 8:03am
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Where The Heck Did I Put My Sarcasm Meter?
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JWPlatt
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Dec 10 2012, 8:37am
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HFR
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herzogian
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Dec 10 2012, 7:49am
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It reduces motion blur, which benefits 3D...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Dec 10 2012, 7:54am
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I don't think that
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Notanelvishname
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Dec 10 2012, 9:34am
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HFR
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herzogian
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Dec 10 2012, 11:00am
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Good point
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Durhil
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Dec 10 2012, 11:10am
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I see your point
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Notanelvishname
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Dec 10 2012, 11:35am
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Sweet jesus
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Jax_Teller
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Dec 10 2012, 12:19pm
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I suspect the post was tongue in cheek...
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Notanelvishname
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Dec 10 2012, 12:24pm
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Bomby went to tbe LOTR Extended Edition Marathon
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Bombadil
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Dec 10 2012, 2:01pm
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Benny Hill, etc.
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Artemis Roach
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Dec 10 2012, 7:15pm
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We do not really know why yet
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Finrod
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Dec 10 2012, 7:46pm
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Ebert and Maxivision48
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Artemis Roach
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Dec 10 2012, 7:55pm
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I saw a Siskel & Ebert back in the 80s
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 10 2012, 8:09pm
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AC/DC
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Artemis Roach
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Dec 10 2012, 8:32pm
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Con-current
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Phibbus
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Dec 10 2012, 9:30pm
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Edison thread?
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Finrod
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Dec 10 2012, 9:48pm
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Sorry
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Phibbus
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Dec 11 2012, 12:55am
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Some people like it, some people don't.
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DanielLB
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Dec 10 2012, 8:02am
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Because he watched 48fps for hours and hours
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Morok Cloudkeeper
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Dec 10 2012, 8:03am
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I guess it is only a matter of getting used to it
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The Preciousss
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Dec 10 2012, 8:14am
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Exactly
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Morok Cloudkeeper
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Dec 10 2012, 8:37am
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This may sound harsh but...
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FiliSonOfDis
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Dec 10 2012, 8:52am
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why is everyone using the word "flopped"??
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Chopsta123
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Dec 10 2012, 9:44am
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Recent science supports the "adaptation" idea
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DwellerInDale
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Dec 10 2012, 8:54am
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Good reference
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Phibbus
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Dec 10 2012, 1:51pm
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It is a good thing, shooting at HFR does not give us super visual processing power
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R11
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Dec 10 2012, 10:59pm
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Thank you for the informations
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Notanelvishname
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Dec 11 2012, 12:25am
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Blur again
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Phibbus
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Dec 11 2012, 1:03am
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That's surprising!
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Escapist
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Dec 11 2012, 1:11am
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Clarification
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Phibbus
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Dec 11 2012, 1:23am
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Anime
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Artemis Roach
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Dec 11 2012, 1:30am
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Mostly
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JWPlatt
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Dec 11 2012, 2:33am
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It sounds like this may be related to what a person is "used to"
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Escapist
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Dec 11 2012, 2:08am
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They aren't stupid questions.
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Artemis Roach
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Dec 11 2012, 2:14am
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Indeed, no stupid questions
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Phibbus
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Dec 11 2012, 2:54am
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Forgive me if I'm being dim.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Dec 11 2012, 10:07am
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Sorry, I'm sure I'm not explaining terribly well
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Phibbus
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Dec 12 2012, 4:08pm
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I think you're being unduly negative
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dormouse
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Dec 10 2012, 2:09pm
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Sarcasm Loves Company
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JWPlatt
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Dec 10 2012, 4:58pm
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Oh - was it sarcasm?
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dormouse
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Dec 10 2012, 7:28pm
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Notice: This Is A Sarcastic Thread
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JWPlatt
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Dec 10 2012, 8:10pm
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Well...
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LordotRings93
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Dec 10 2012, 3:26pm
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It was a mistake to show it to critics
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frodolives
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Dec 10 2012, 4:29pm
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I think that mistake was done in CinemaCon 2012
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utku
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Dec 10 2012, 4:37pm
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Who says he didn't?
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dave_lf
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Dec 10 2012, 4:43pm
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Who knows how many people are seeing this correctly-projected...
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sycorax82
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Dec 10 2012, 4:46pm
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Everybody doesn't have a problem with 48 FPS ...
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Escapist
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Dec 11 2012, 1:00am
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