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Bumblingidiot
Rohan
Dec 8 2012, 12:10pm
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Only objective reviews would ever be fair and that would be impossible. The other problem with RT is that unless you use the same critics each time for every film then the system becomes unfair as you are using different opinions each time you review. The big ions will obviously get more critical attention but smaller films will not. The larger sample size you take the more fair the result. However, again it is subjective and the people reviewing them I feel are often trying to justify their jobs now in an industry that is becoming irrelevant. Reviews were helpful 20 years go before the advent of the Internet. But now, for example with this film, if I want the opinion on the Hobbit from people who love JRRT as much as me then I will come on here to see what people think of the film. The opinions of reviewers mean little to me. The only thing it may sway is that of the ordinary non Middle Earth fan. But in all honesty, if you don't have an interest in fantasy then you probably wouldn't bother anyway. Agree with your main point, but not this last sentence: I have no interest in fantasy whatsoever - as a genre, but was brought up on great literature - and that included Tolkien's books. They are potentially of interest to anyone who appreciates good English literature. If they also like film, they're going to be interested in any attempts to adapt the books. The problem is that the price of all those costumes, sets and CGI is that the adapter is forced to make the films in a way that will appeal to people who never bothered to learn to read, let alone appreciate good writing. If the fans of the book also like it, that's just a bonus. Fortunately, the team adapting the text is concerned with the source literature and, being semi-independent, has some distance from Hollywood's drive towards the lowest common denominator. Unfortunately, however, many film critics are morons, who can't cope with any film that doesn't conform to the accepted formula. Given that Tolkien's work doesn't conform to the formula, any decent adaptation will inevitably get a fair degree of criticism. The saving grace of Lord of the Rings, from a critics perspective, is that the story has an emotional depth and is deeply concerned with relationships between individuals. The Hobbit is written - at least in the earlier chapters that the first film deals with - as an adventure story and as far as relationships are concerned, most of the characters spend most of the book being cross with each other. The joy of the book for me, is the amount of grumbling, bickering and complaining; whether this is done well in the film, or appreciated by the audience remains to be seen.
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Rotten tomatoes (*waves wand)* - this now becomes the Fourth Official One Review Thread to Rule them All links to other review threads inside) - Please post reviews and related comments HERE!
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ElendurTheFaithful
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Dec 6 2012, 11:40pm
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Sigh
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Dec 6 2012, 11:46pm
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Well
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ElendurTheFaithful
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Dec 6 2012, 11:54pm
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Which is why
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Lusitano
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Dec 6 2012, 11:56pm
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i read them
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BeornBerserker
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Dec 7 2012, 12:05am
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I'm not sure quite what you mean.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Dec 7 2012, 12:02am
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subjetcive point of view
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Lusitano
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Dec 6 2012, 11:52pm
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I really hope...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Dec 6 2012, 11:55pm
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We are
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Lusitano
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Dec 6 2012, 11:58pm
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That is the substance of a film review.
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Ataahua
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Dec 6 2012, 11:58pm
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I agree
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HiddenSpring
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Dec 6 2012, 11:59pm
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I've read 4-5 negative reviews of Hobbit, objective and rational, well written
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ElendurTheFaithful
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Dec 7 2012, 12:03am
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Indeed
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LordotRings93
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Dec 7 2012, 12:01am
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I would request not using the term "retarded".
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Aragalen the Green
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Dec 7 2012, 12:24am
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Mods up (NT)
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Calmandcloudless
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Dec 7 2012, 12:37am
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No. please dont use the term "Rancid" either.....
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Dlanor da Great
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Dec 7 2012, 12:43am
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A very good point, Aragalen.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Dec 7 2012, 12:47am
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Fair call - edits have been done. /
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Ataahua
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Dec 7 2012, 1:17am
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The top critics have something in common that makes them stand out from the rest of the crowd
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Escapist
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Dec 7 2012, 12:29am
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another fun detail
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Escapist
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Dec 7 2012, 12:34am
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History of the World
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ceppault
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Dec 7 2012, 12:52am
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Mad props for bringing up that movie...
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sharpened_graphite
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Dec 7 2012, 12:58am
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Some final grades from Rotten Tomatoes...
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Dogsofwar
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Dec 7 2012, 3:30am
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I concur with all those...
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Elizabeth
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Dec 7 2012, 4:26am
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Some classics on that list, most definitely.
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Maiarmike
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Dec 7 2012, 7:12am
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Home Alone! 54%
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DanielLB
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Dec 7 2012, 8:19am
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Ok since I've started this thread let me clear something first
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ElendurTheFaithful
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Dec 7 2012, 8:44am
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I think you mean Groundhog Day :-)
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belfalas
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Dec 7 2012, 9:45am
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Also known as my birthday! ;-) /
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DanielLB
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Dec 7 2012, 11:36am
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fun facts
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WhiskFishercat
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Dec 7 2012, 9:44pm
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Forrest Gump
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Crunchable Birdses
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Dec 8 2012, 1:22pm
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aww really?
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WhiskFishercat
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Dec 8 2012, 5:04pm
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Forrest Gump
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 8 2012, 7:18pm
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If this
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Silverlode
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Dec 7 2012, 1:24am
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Don't shoot the messenger
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Elizabeth
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Dec 7 2012, 2:34am
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That's exactly right
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jtarkey
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Dec 7 2012, 2:42am
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review
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BeornBerserker
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Dec 7 2012, 2:50am
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Erindor?
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Mooseboy018
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Dec 7 2012, 2:53am
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i know
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BeornBerserker
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Dec 7 2012, 2:55am
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No dwarfs or nephews, just Erindor
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Finrod
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Dec 7 2012, 3:00am
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See, it's reviews like that...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Dec 7 2012, 3:38am
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I've heard a lot of compaints about the length of LOTR
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jtarkey
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Dec 7 2012, 3:47am
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I agree! But there is still an issue on how they report reviews
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thoon
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Dec 7 2012, 3:36am
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Roger Ebert
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zecharas
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Dec 7 2012, 4:13am
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The nice thing about Ebert...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Dec 7 2012, 4:19am
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King Kong was awesome
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jtarkey
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Dec 7 2012, 4:26am
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That Mirror review
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 7 2012, 4:48am
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Reading *anything* from a British tabloid is likely to damage your health
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Crunchable Birdses
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Dec 7 2012, 10:28am
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I have never bought a newspaper in years....
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Balrogslunch
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Dec 7 2012, 10:50am
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Interesting to note that Les Miserables, a reportedly strong Oscar contender...
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Maiarmike
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Dec 7 2012, 7:09am
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What Maiarmike said.
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macfalk
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Dec 7 2012, 7:13am
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Reviews are subjective...
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Silranhir
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Dec 7 2012, 8:52am
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Adapt or die.
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Bumblingidiot
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Dec 8 2012, 12:10pm
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A similar case...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Dec 7 2012, 7:15am
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Miserables
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herzogian
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Dec 7 2012, 8:43am
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I beg to differ.
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Silverlode
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Dec 7 2012, 8:53am
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Musical
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herzogian
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Dec 7 2012, 9:05am
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It's a matter of taste, of course.
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Silverlode
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Dec 7 2012, 9:48am
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Musical
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herzogian
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Dec 7 2012, 10:56am
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Heh, I looked it up and...
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Crunchable Birdses
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Dec 7 2012, 10:34am
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Critics
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herzogian
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Dec 7 2012, 8:58am
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My similar post of critics got locked, but what I think of critics....
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Gorgori
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Dec 7 2012, 4:01pm
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Because
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Jettorex
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Dec 7 2012, 1:54pm
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new review
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BeornBerserker
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Dec 7 2012, 2:05pm
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short but good review
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BeornBerserker
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Dec 7 2012, 3:01pm
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interesting coomentary on some reviews
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BeornBerserker
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Dec 7 2012, 3:15pm
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Sequels to surpass original films?
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Finrod
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Dec 7 2012, 3:44pm
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Same thing
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BeornBerserker
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Dec 7 2012, 4:02pm
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71 on rt
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Welsh hero
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Dec 7 2012, 4:03pm
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I really dont understand
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Elenorflower
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Dec 7 2012, 6:28pm
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I'm "obsessing" over it because it's fun.
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 7 2012, 7:27pm
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I think the critical reviews are part of the whole story of the making of ...
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Escapist
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Dec 8 2012, 7:29pm
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A very positive review
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daemoon
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Dec 9 2012, 10:01pm
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