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Plurmo
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Dec 7 2012, 5:47pm
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You seem to be thinking about an earlier Saruman,
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invested in the secret study of ringmaking. A Saruman that would be all too desirous of even the lesser of the Ring of Power for studying purposes. A Saruman that could, unlikely as it seems, risk his disguise and his life trying to take Narya from Gandalf in an ambush out in the open. In my analysis I consider a Saruman already aware of the (virtual) finding of the Ring of Sauron. It is a Saruman in open treason to the Council, acting as a tyrant in the making. It's not a matter of Narya being itself "useless" and Saruman "utterly uninterested in possessing it" and anything else. It is the overwhelming presence of the One Ring changing completely Saruman's priorities. Saruman do know the difference between the One Ring and the other Rings. To Gandalf, a mere custodian of Narya, he announces that he is a veritable ring-maker himself (that is way above custodian in the mind of a disciple of Aulė and settles the issue of who is the greater wizard) and that he no longer cares about making things. He wants to become things. He wants to become a Power. Narya becomes a small trifle and the doom of the Balrog is settled.
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Why didn't Saruman take Narya from Gandalf?
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Kassandros
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Nov 28 2012, 4:28pm
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From the Unfinished Tales:
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DanielLB
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Nov 28 2012, 4:55pm
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That just makes it all the more curious!
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Kassandros
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Nov 28 2012, 5:27pm
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Assuming Saruman did know of the Ring, I can think of several reasons why he didn't take it
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DanielLB
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Nov 28 2012, 6:14pm
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2 and 3 sound good to me. //
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Kassandros
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Nov 29 2012, 5:09pm
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Narya and the Ruby Slippers
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Lissuin
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Nov 28 2012, 6:42pm
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One word....
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ForestPark
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Nov 28 2012, 10:45pm
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Saruman: Gandalf, lay down your Ring
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 29 2012, 12:35am
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Uhhh,
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Lissuin
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Nov 29 2012, 7:06am
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You had me!
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DanielLB
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Nov 29 2012, 10:45am
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"Look! Here's someone who can help you!"
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Lissuin
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Nov 29 2012, 6:01pm
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Two things
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zarabia
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Nov 29 2012, 6:26am
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Narya is the quintessential conservative Ring
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Plurmo
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Nov 29 2012, 3:09pm
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I have no idea if this is serious or a joke.
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Kassandros
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Nov 29 2012, 5:04pm
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Just to clarify...
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Eye's on Guard
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Nov 30 2012, 6:26am
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Fair enough.
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Kassandros
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Nov 30 2012, 5:08pm
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Conservatism is about permanence.
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Plurmo
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Dec 4 2012, 5:01pm
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Saruman begrudged Gandalf having the ring to the extent that it drove a wedge between them
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Dec 7 2012, 12:52am
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You seem to be thinking about an earlier Saruman,
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Plurmo
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Dec 7 2012, 5:47pm
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