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Plurmo
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Dec 4 2012, 5:01pm
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Conservatism is about permanence.
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Middle-earth is the context here. For the high elves, obssessed as they were with the problem of fading, preservation from undesirable change was the main objective of their ring making. As such their three Rings of Power were conservative in nature. With Saruman positioning himself as a multiculturalist playing politics of grievance in order to become a tyrant ruling over peoples without shared memory apart from imagined or amplified (by the ruler) grievances there would be no use (for him) of conservative rings of Power. Middle-earth is the context.
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Why didn't Saruman take Narya from Gandalf?
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Kassandros
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Nov 28 2012, 4:28pm
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From the Unfinished Tales:
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DanielLB
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Nov 28 2012, 4:55pm
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That just makes it all the more curious!
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Kassandros
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Nov 28 2012, 5:27pm
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Assuming Saruman did know of the Ring, I can think of several reasons why he didn't take it
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DanielLB
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Nov 28 2012, 6:14pm
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2 and 3 sound good to me. //
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Kassandros
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Nov 29 2012, 5:09pm
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Narya and the Ruby Slippers
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Lissuin
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Nov 28 2012, 6:42pm
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One word....
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ForestPark
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Nov 28 2012, 10:45pm
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Saruman: Gandalf, lay down your Ring
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 29 2012, 12:35am
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Uhhh,
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Lissuin
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Nov 29 2012, 7:06am
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You had me!
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DanielLB
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Nov 29 2012, 10:45am
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"Look! Here's someone who can help you!"
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Lissuin
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Nov 29 2012, 6:01pm
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Two things
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zarabia
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Nov 29 2012, 6:26am
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Narya is the quintessential conservative Ring
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Plurmo
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Nov 29 2012, 3:09pm
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I have no idea if this is serious or a joke.
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Kassandros
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Nov 29 2012, 5:04pm
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Just to clarify...
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Eye's on Guard
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Nov 30 2012, 6:26am
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Fair enough.
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Kassandros
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Nov 30 2012, 5:08pm
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Conservatism is about permanence.
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Plurmo
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Dec 4 2012, 5:01pm
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Saruman begrudged Gandalf having the ring to the extent that it drove a wedge between them
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Dec 7 2012, 12:52am
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You seem to be thinking about an earlier Saruman,
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Plurmo
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Dec 7 2012, 5:47pm
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