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Finrod
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Dec 4 2012, 3:22pm
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Jackson has much more time on his side to tell the tale now. Although there are issues with the peremptory analysis that claims he spent two minutes a page — basically, two chapters per hour — it is unquestionably true that Jackson has more screentime available to him here in The Hobbit than he had in the The Lord of the Rings. That doesn’t entirely invalidate Christopher Tolkien’s stinging criticism that pandering to a mass-market audience necessarily warps his father’s tales by turning them into nothing more than action-adventure tales for youth. But it may on this occasion take a bit of the biting edge off that sting. Some of the points of criticism are to me cause for celebration. For example, I am cheered that they criticize the singing. “Oh gosh, there were not one but two dwarf-songs before the hack-a-thon kicked into gear,” wail the impatient critics. Fine by me. The lack of song in Jackson’s earlier movies adapting Tolkien has always bothered me. Song is important to the work; just look at what a good job Sibley did with it in his BBC radio adaptation. So unlike its critics, I for one am glad it is there. I am even more overjoyed that it is sung in the very style that the Professor himself envisioned it sung in.
…all eyes looked upon the ring; for he held it now aloft, and the green jewels gleamed there that the Noldor had devised in Valinor. For this ring was like to twin serpents, whose eyes were emeralds, and their heads met beneath a crown of golden flowers, that the one upheld and the other devoured; that was the badge of Finarfin and his house.The Silmarillion, pp 150-151 while Felagund laughs beneath the treesin Valinor and comes no more to this grey world of tears and war.The Lays of Beleriand, p 311
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movie is failing
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haarp
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Dec 4 2012, 1:59pm
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62% isn't failing ...
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DanielLB
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Dec 4 2012, 2:00pm
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No it's not failing
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utku
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Dec 4 2012, 2:05pm
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Whats Really Bugging
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chrism628
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Dec 4 2012, 2:09pm
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I actually compared it to FotR
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utku
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Dec 4 2012, 2:20pm
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agreed
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Balrogslunch
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Dec 4 2012, 2:12pm
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hehe snap
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Balrogslunch
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Dec 4 2012, 2:14pm
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Was it made for fans of the story or fans of Peter Jackson, though? I love most of the clips I have seen
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 4 2012, 2:26pm
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I haven't read most of the reviews in order to avoid spoilers...
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Earl
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Dec 4 2012, 2:11pm
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It's not failing...
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Aragorn22
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Dec 4 2012, 2:22pm
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ok I wouldn't lie myself
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Wordofmask
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Dec 4 2012, 2:30pm
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I hope they don't bring in an ! tax.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Dec 4 2012, 2:25pm
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The only review that matters
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Tampa Phil
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Dec 4 2012, 2:28pm
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*mods up*
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dernwyn
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Dec 4 2012, 2:38pm
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Arc of the early reviews what I expected, largely.
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Tampa Phil
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Dec 4 2012, 2:50pm
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'Distinct Phantom Menace vibe?'
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Shagrat
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Dec 4 2012, 2:56pm
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Was going to say something similar.
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Cave Troll
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Dec 4 2012, 3:07pm
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I my humble opinion ....
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Kaymanklynman
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Dec 4 2012, 3:14pm
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You are
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Lindele
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Dec 4 2012, 3:35pm
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Well, let's see:
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Tampa Phil
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Dec 4 2012, 3:35pm
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errrrr check
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Balrogslunch
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Dec 4 2012, 3:38pm
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I get this in real life
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Tampa Phil
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Dec 4 2012, 3:43pm
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Nope
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Shagrat
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Dec 4 2012, 3:53pm
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On the positive side
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Tampa Phil
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Dec 4 2012, 4:00pm
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yeh i like that one
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Balrogslunch
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Dec 4 2012, 4:08pm
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I dont mind the movie movie critics but.....
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Balrogslunch
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Dec 4 2012, 3:09pm
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Critics are only human
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Tampa Phil
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Dec 4 2012, 3:17pm
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Hmm it rather depends for what though.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Dec 4 2012, 2:43pm
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For standalone movies, yes
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dave_lf
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Dec 4 2012, 2:43pm
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that is what I fear
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Wordofmask
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Dec 4 2012, 2:49pm
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What has a bigger impact on how the rest of the films are made?
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DanielLB
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Dec 4 2012, 2:51pm
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Only if it tanks at the Box Office
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Tampa Phil
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Dec 4 2012, 2:51pm
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Agreed
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dave_lf
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Dec 4 2012, 2:54pm
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You might find
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Tampa Phil
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Dec 4 2012, 2:59pm
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I want slow pacing.
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Kaymanklynman
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Dec 4 2012, 3:07pm
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as long as.....
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Balrogslunch
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Dec 4 2012, 3:15pm
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agree 100%
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Kaymanklynman
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Dec 4 2012, 3:17pm
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It will be better than the FOTR
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Kaymanklynman
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Dec 4 2012, 2:58pm
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So ...
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DanielLB
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Dec 4 2012, 3:02pm
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We'll see how faithful it is.
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 4 2012, 3:04pm
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Time is on his side
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Finrod
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Dec 4 2012, 3:22pm
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Lets be careful not to be hypocritical
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MorgolKing
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Dec 4 2012, 3:33pm
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And Finrod Fell...Gil Galad
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Kaymanklynman
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Dec 4 2012, 3:33pm
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I, like you, am happy about the inclusion of The Songs. I am more worried about historical revisionism
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AinurOlorin
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Dec 4 2012, 11:05pm
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Seriously?
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dubulous
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Dec 4 2012, 3:15pm
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This will be a fun movie! I'm so excited!
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shadowfaux
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Dec 4 2012, 4:26pm
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The Hobbit will not fail
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nobofthepony
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Dec 4 2012, 4:58pm
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I'm with you
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shadowdog
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Dec 4 2012, 9:42pm
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,kkk
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haarp
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Dec 4 2012, 5:26pm
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Save this film?
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Carne
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Dec 4 2012, 5:30pm
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Why do we need a wizard to save this?
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Tim
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Dec 4 2012, 5:31pm
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As much as I hate critic reviews
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Crunchable Birdses
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Dec 4 2012, 5:47pm
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Cherry picking indeed
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DanielLB
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Dec 4 2012, 5:35pm
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"feel(s) more like cartography than storytelling"
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Arthael
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Dec 4 2012, 9:17pm
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and to paraphrase Sean Astin...
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Zherkezhi
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Dec 4 2012, 9:19pm
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Every single movie that you or I have loved has not only one, but multiple negative reviews
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Tim
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Dec 4 2012, 5:40pm
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Indeed
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QuickTidal
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Dec 4 2012, 5:46pm
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Again...
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MorgolKing
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Dec 4 2012, 5:47pm
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To dismiss or not dismiss, that is the question
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Tim
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Dec 4 2012, 5:54pm
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hmmmm
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QuickTidal
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Dec 4 2012, 5:55pm
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Huh....
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QuickTidal
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Dec 4 2012, 6:00pm
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Ok...
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MorgolKing
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Dec 4 2012, 6:10pm
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Why are the negative reviews concerning?
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DanielLB
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Dec 4 2012, 6:15pm
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Hi
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MorgolKing
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Dec 4 2012, 6:18pm
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I've not been keeping count
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DanielLB
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Dec 4 2012, 6:22pm
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It's the ratio of negative to positive
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Crunchable Birdses
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Dec 4 2012, 6:18pm
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Disingenuous may not be the right word
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Tim
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Dec 4 2012, 6:23pm
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Tim...
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MorgolKing
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Dec 4 2012, 6:45pm
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Respectfully, I did not come into this thread saying to another poster they should not be worried about negative reviews
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Tim
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Dec 4 2012, 6:53pm
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Precisely!
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sharpened_graphite
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Dec 4 2012, 8:04pm
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I agree in part.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Dec 4 2012, 6:41pm
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LR...
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MorgolKing
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Dec 4 2012, 6:51pm
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Just to make a point,
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Aragorn22
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Dec 4 2012, 8:00pm
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Please forgive my naivity
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DanielLB
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Dec 4 2012, 8:22pm
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it takes into account all critics reviews as far as ican tell
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Azog
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Dec 4 2012, 8:36pm
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The problem with reviews is...
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YaznegSouth40
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Dec 4 2012, 8:45pm
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Both RottenTomatoes and MetaCritic
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Silverlode
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Dec 4 2012, 8:52pm
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Rotten tomatoes
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Aragorn22
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Dec 4 2012, 8:46pm
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One question...
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dormouse
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Dec 4 2012, 7:40pm
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Exactly like that!
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dave_lf
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Dec 4 2012, 7:53pm
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Never trust Metacritic!
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Olessan
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Dec 5 2012, 11:09am
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Real Critics
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sauget.diblosio
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Dec 5 2012, 6:20pm
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