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Narya is the quintessential conservative Ring

Plurmo
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Nov 29 2012, 3:09pm


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Its purpose is to inspire others to become dwarves... I mean, to inspire others to resist domination and tyranny. Now Saruman the Ringmaker, Saruman of Many Colours, Saruman Benneton, has become the epitome of what, in the context of Middle-earth, could be called "Liberalism" (here I use the word in the american sense.) He intents on being a tyrant rulling upon a cultureless and memoryless multitude of cross-breeded (from orcs, men, hobbit, dwarf, talking purses, moths, anything goes) creatures without a sense of family, peoplehood, continuum or history. Because of this "modern leftist" nature, Saruman is also obssessed by the idea of erasing the free, traditionalist and heroic people of Rohan. Erasing its peoplehood, that is, while turning the men, woman an children of Rohan into organic components of his cross-bred slave people.

Saruman has no need for Narya for he wants to become a tyrant. He could have taken it from Gandalf to keep it away, but the value of a Ring of Power is in the Ringwearer itself. It is Gandalf who is the missionary for freedom, not Narya.

If Saruman begrudged something it was that the trust of the wise elves was put firstly in Gandalf and not in him, the greatest of the Wizard Order. He was an Ainur after all and that means a sensitivity to the opinions of the children of Iluvatar.

Subject User Time
Why didn't Saruman take Narya from Gandalf? Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 28 2012, 4:28pm
    From the Unfinished Tales: DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 28 2012, 4:55pm
        That just makes it all the more curious! Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 28 2012, 5:27pm
            Assuming Saruman did know of the Ring, I can think of several reasons why he didn't take it DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 28 2012, 6:14pm
                2 and 3 sound good to me. // Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 29 2012, 5:09pm
    Narya and the Ruby Slippers Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Nov 28 2012, 6:42pm
    One word.... ForestPark Nov 28 2012, 10:45pm
    Saruman: Gandalf, lay down your Ring ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Nov 29 2012, 12:35am
        Uhhh, Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Nov 29 2012, 7:06am
            You had me! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 29 2012, 10:45am
                "Look! Here's someone who can help you!" Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Nov 29 2012, 6:01pm
    Two things zarabia Send a private message to zarabia Nov 29 2012, 6:26am
    Narya is the quintessential conservative Ring Plurmo Send a private message to Plurmo Nov 29 2012, 3:09pm
        I have no idea if this is serious or a joke. Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 29 2012, 5:04pm
            Just to clarify... Eye's on Guard Send a private message to Eye's on Guard Nov 30 2012, 6:26am
                Fair enough. Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 30 2012, 5:08pm
        Conservatism is about permanence. Plurmo Send a private message to Plurmo Dec 4 2012, 5:01pm
            Saruman begrudged Gandalf having the ring to the extent that it drove a wedge between them Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Dec 7 2012, 12:52am
                You seem to be thinking about an earlier Saruman, Plurmo Send a private message to Plurmo Dec 7 2012, 5:47pm

 
 
 

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