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Plurmo
Lorien
Nov 29 2012, 3:09pm
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Narya is the quintessential conservative Ring
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Its purpose is to inspire others to become dwarves... I mean, to inspire others to resist domination and tyranny. Now Saruman the Ringmaker, Saruman of Many Colours, Saruman Benneton, has become the epitome of what, in the context of Middle-earth, could be called "Liberalism" (here I use the word in the american sense.) He intents on being a tyrant rulling upon a cultureless and memoryless multitude of cross-breeded (from orcs, men, hobbit, dwarf, talking purses, moths, anything goes) creatures without a sense of family, peoplehood, continuum or history. Because of this "modern leftist" nature, Saruman is also obssessed by the idea of erasing the free, traditionalist and heroic people of Rohan. Erasing its peoplehood, that is, while turning the men, woman an children of Rohan into organic components of his cross-bred slave people.
Saruman has no need for Narya for he wants to become a tyrant. He could have taken it from Gandalf to keep it away, but the value of a Ring of Power is in the Ringwearer itself. It is Gandalf who is the missionary for freedom, not Narya.
If Saruman begrudged something it was that the trust of the wise elves was put firstly in Gandalf and not in him, the greatest of the Wizard Order. He was an Ainur after all and that means a sensitivity to the opinions of the children of Iluvatar.
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Why didn't Saruman take Narya from Gandalf?
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Kassandros
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Nov 28 2012, 4:28pm
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From the Unfinished Tales:
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DanielLB
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Nov 28 2012, 4:55pm
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That just makes it all the more curious!
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Kassandros
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Nov 28 2012, 5:27pm
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Assuming Saruman did know of the Ring, I can think of several reasons why he didn't take it
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DanielLB
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Nov 28 2012, 6:14pm
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2 and 3 sound good to me. //
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Kassandros
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Nov 29 2012, 5:09pm
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Narya and the Ruby Slippers
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Lissuin
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Nov 28 2012, 6:42pm
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One word....
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ForestPark
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Nov 28 2012, 10:45pm
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Saruman: Gandalf, lay down your Ring
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 29 2012, 12:35am
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Uhhh,
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Lissuin
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Nov 29 2012, 7:06am
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You had me!
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DanielLB
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Nov 29 2012, 10:45am
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"Look! Here's someone who can help you!"
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Lissuin
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Nov 29 2012, 6:01pm
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Two things
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zarabia
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Nov 29 2012, 6:26am
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Narya is the quintessential conservative Ring
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Plurmo
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Nov 29 2012, 3:09pm
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I have no idea if this is serious or a joke.
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Kassandros
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Nov 29 2012, 5:04pm
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Just to clarify...
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Eye's on Guard
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Nov 30 2012, 6:26am
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Fair enough.
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Kassandros
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Nov 30 2012, 5:08pm
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Conservatism is about permanence.
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Plurmo
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Dec 4 2012, 5:01pm
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Saruman begrudged Gandalf having the ring to the extent that it drove a wedge between them
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Dec 7 2012, 12:52am
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You seem to be thinking about an earlier Saruman,
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Plurmo
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Dec 7 2012, 5:47pm
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