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Elthir
Grey Havens
Nov 25 2012, 5:19pm
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... that Beorn followed the Dwarves and Gandalf notes this, it is still Gandalf who says 'Now you must send back these excellent ponies you have borrowed.' And then Thorin questions Ganadalf about the 'horse' and his promise, and Gandalf says: 'I will look after that. I am not sending the horse back, I am riding it.' And with this they knew Gandalf was leaving them. So it's Gandalf who still uses the phrasing 'send back' despite that he knows Beorn has followed, and the meaning is still easily enough understood: Beorn is getting his ponies back, they are 'returned' before venturing deep into Mirkwood, and they will end up back at his home. Gandalf arguably draws the distinction between 'sending' and 'riding' because he is leaving the Dwarves and Bilbo at this point, but to my mind the reader can't tell if Gandalf means he is riding 'back' along with the ponies (which I think is at least implied) to return his horse as well, or if this means he is riding it as in: anywhere else he wants to go. So in my opinion the distinction you're making here about returning the ponies still leaves the reader wondering the same thing: we don't know if the wizard is going back with Beorn and leaving his horse at Beorn's home, or if Beorn has allowed Gandalf to take the horse to his next destination.
(This post was edited by Elthir on Nov 25 2012, 5:27pm)
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Did Beorn know of Gandalf's mission in Hobbit?
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BeornBerserker
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Nov 19 2012, 1:42pm
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My impression...
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Otaku-sempai
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Nov 19 2012, 1:46pm
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Yes that possibility seems to be open, I agree
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Elthir
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Nov 19 2012, 6:38pm
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Another impression
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CuriousG
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Nov 19 2012, 9:49pm
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What comes to Mind is a shot in the First Scroll.
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Bombadil
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Nov 20 2012, 3:01am
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Didn't Gandalf say
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Faenoriel
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Nov 21 2012, 3:26pm
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Gandalf's horses
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Elthir
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Nov 21 2012, 4:37pm
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Gandalf didn't return the ponies to Beorn
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JohnsS29
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Nov 25 2012, 6:32am
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Bearing in mind...
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Elthir
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Nov 25 2012, 5:19pm
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The gist of it
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JohnsS29
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Nov 26 2012, 10:08am
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South or West
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Elthir
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Nov 26 2012, 12:04pm
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I still believe that...
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Otaku-sempai
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Nov 26 2012, 2:40pm
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Another factor might be...
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Elthir
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Nov 26 2012, 3:10pm
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Oh, I'm sure that Gandalf would not deliberately cross Beorn...
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Otaku-sempai
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Nov 26 2012, 3:13pm
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