Our Sponsor Sideshow Collectibles Send us News
Lord of the Rings Tolkien
Search Tolkien
Lord of The RingsTheOneRing.net - Forged By And For Fans Of JRR Tolkien
Lord of The Rings Serving Middle-Earth Since The First Age

Lord of the Rings Movie News - J.R.R. Tolkien
Do you enjoy the 100% volunteer, not for profit services of TheOneRing.net?
Consider a donation!

  Main Index   Search Posts   Who's Online   Log in
The One Ring Forums: Tolkien Topics: Movie Discussion: The Hobbit:
It is possible, however unlikey, that between the Wizard rescing the company and the first warg attack

AinurOlorin
Half-elven


Nov 24 2012, 9:59pm


Views: 411
Shortcut
It is possible, however unlikey, that between the Wizard rescing the company and the first warg attack [In reply to] Can't Post

we get something of a creepy fireside tale, in which Balin accounts the ill fated adventure upon which Thrain was lost, and Gandalf at last fully reveals how and when he found Thrain in The Hill of Sorcery.

In Reply To
As AUJ approaches, it seems the Necromancer/White Council storyline is coming slowly but surely into place. However, there's still a fair amount we don't know as to how exactly things are going to play out. Listening to the score again, a track which stands out is "The Hill of Sorcery", which is placed in-between the Trollshaw and the attack of Wargs. Going on what we know, what on Earth is happening here?

-Benedict Cumberbatch AKA The Necromancer, is not in AUJ (or at least, has been removed from the official cast list)
-Gandy's scene where he's stalked through the ruins of Dol Guldur has been pushed back to Film 2, according to Empire...however, there may be two of these sequences, one where has not yet obtained Glamdring and encounters Thrain, another where he has Glamdring and fights Bolg...or are these both part of the same scene?
-The track itself begins a light repetition of the Hobbit theme, (probably a transition from the Trollshaw to Mirkwood), then the "spider motif" also heard in the track "Radagast the Brown", there's a quieter low-key grim mid-section, and ends with a dramatic rendition of the "Mordor/Sauron" theme

With these in mind, what could be happening at this point at Dol Guldur? IMO, it's likely we'll get a "fly-by" shot similar to how PJ approached Isengard in TTT, with some of the denizens of the fortress kind of lurking/moving about...but the majority of the scene will probably be Orc plotting/going after Raddy as he escapes the attack on Rhosgobel? Can't imagine how the Sauron theme comes into play, however, unless the Necro has a non-speaking cameo (though shouldn't BC still be credited as he performed mo-cap for the character as well)?


"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."

Subject User Time
The Hill of Sorcery? Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Nov 24 2012, 7:06pm
    I thought it Elrond's scenes with the White Council at DG Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Nov 24 2012, 7:10pm
        Here it is on Empire Page 64: Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Nov 24 2012, 7:16pm
            To be fair... Elutherian Send a private message to Elutherian Nov 24 2012, 7:32pm
            I doubt Empire on this one Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Nov 24 2012, 7:35pm
                Hil of Sorcery is on the score, but that doesn't mean Gandy is there in Film 1... Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Nov 24 2012, 7:45pm
            Ah, yes, the clips of Gandalf fighting zombie Thrain were only ever in the teaser... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Nov 24 2012, 7:42pm
                I agree that the narrative could get quite messy if they don't show the Thrain sequence Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Nov 24 2012, 7:51pm
                    I don't think we'll see Gandalf in Dol Guldur in film 1 Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Nov 24 2012, 8:08pm
                        Just checked the Visual Companion... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Nov 24 2012, 8:34pm
            There are indeed 2 separate scenes of Gandalf exploring ruins SPOILERS Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Nov 24 2012, 7:55pm
                Soundtrack Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Nov 24 2012, 8:13pm
                    yes! Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Nov 24 2012, 8:18pm
                        Intriguing speculations! Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Nov 24 2012, 8:36pm
                            Ah, I'd forgotten the details of the Comic-Con footage... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Nov 24 2012, 8:42pm
    It is possible, however unlikey, that between the Wizard rescing the company and the first warg attack AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 24 2012, 9:59pm
        I think Gandalf is called away totoro Send a private message to totoro Nov 24 2012, 10:21pm
        Agreed, I've considered this as well. Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Nov 25 2012, 1:14am
            Is it possible GothmogTheBalrog Send a private message to GothmogTheBalrog Nov 25 2012, 7:39pm
                Somewhere in Rivendell... dave_lf Send a private message to dave_lf Nov 26 2012, 2:39pm
    Or the title could be misleading Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 24 2012, 10:40pm
        True, but Gandalf has to go somewhere, right? nt totoro Send a private message to totoro Nov 24 2012, 11:05pm
            And that somewhere must be near Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 24 2012, 11:10pm
                In the Weta Chronicles book Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Nov 24 2012, 11:40pm
                    Nice to have confirmation the Nazgul tomb is basically standing in for the barrow-downs in this tale... Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Nov 25 2012, 1:10am
                        Don't forget the abounded farmhouse! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 25 2012, 9:32am
                            Wouldn't it be somewhat ironic, painjoiker Send a private message to painjoiker Nov 25 2012, 3:18pm
                            Yes, quite possibly...or the trolls? Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Nov 25 2012, 5:51pm
                                Has someone been watching Bill & Ted recently? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 25 2012, 6:00pm
                                    Heehee...so, Keanu's rumored cameo hanging out with Hugo on the White Council hasn't made the cut? Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Nov 25 2012, 6:17pm
                                        Unless its named anything specifically DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 25 2012, 6:28pm
                Isengard is even farther from The Shire than Dol Guldur is from The Troll Shaws AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 25 2012, 3:29am
                    Travel at the speed of plot. Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 25 2012, 8:35am
                        Lol.Indeed, Fardragon. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 26 2012, 9:16am
    Gandalf at Dol Guldur could now very well open DoS as a kind of Prologue sycorax82 Send a private message to sycorax82 Nov 25 2012, 12:20am
    I will make a guess Vangalad Send a private message to Vangalad Nov 25 2012, 12:37am
        Bomby Agrees! /// Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Nov 25 2012, 1:08am
        Sounds good. // Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 25 2012, 1:26pm
        Here I thought... Aragalen the Green Send a private message to Aragalen the Green Nov 25 2012, 7:33pm
    Hmmm - the Tomb scene definitely takes place after Trollshaws Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 25 2012, 6:37pm
        So it must be.. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 25 2012, 7:11pm

 
 
 

Search for (options) Powered by Gossamer Forum v.1.2.3

home | advertising | contact us | back to top | search news | join list | Content Rating

This site is maintained and updated by fans of The Lord of the Rings, and is in no way affiliated with Tolkien Enterprises or the Tolkien Estate. We in no way claim the artwork displayed to be our own. Copyrights and trademarks for the books, films, articles, and other promotional materials are held by their respective owners and their use is allowed under the fair use clause of the Copyright Law. Design and original photography however are copyright © 1999-2012 TheOneRing.net. Binary hosting provided by Nexcess.net

Do not follow this link, or your host will be blocked from this site. This is a spider trap.