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Lightice
Lorien
Nov 24 2012, 9:10pm
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Also, in the books Saruman was more interested in finding the ring for himself than allying with Sauron simply because he thinks it's a good idea.
I am aware, but this is not introduced in the films, so it would just add needless confusion. Saruman may express unhealthy interest in the One Ring, but short of declaring his intent to set himself up as the new Dark Lord, the White Council would only see him obsessing about finding the one thing that can defeat Sauron for good.
But what really bugs me about this whole hypothesis about Radagast's supposed death is just how little foundation it has within the material that we have, which is absolutely none. People simply figure out "he's not in the original trilogy, he must be dead!" It's a conclusion that makes no sense to me whatsoever. He was absent for the bulk of the books but no-one assumed that he got killed off-screen in them. There's simply no foundation whatsoever for this assumption at all. It's a piece of idle fan speculation that has somehow reached the levels canon in people's minds and I can't for the life of me comperehend why. It doesn't even make sense in the story canon: we're very clearly shown that the Istari who die in the course of their duties get resurrected until their work is done.
Repeat after me: absence of a character does not in itself imply death. It implies murder even less so; why people aren't speculating about Radagast heroically dying in the attack on Dol Guldur, for that matter? There's an equal amount of evidence to support it: none. I simply don't get why people obsess about getting Radagast killed in a pointless, humiliating way in a manner that conflicts the canon, introduces plot-holes and doesn't add anything to the story, also removing what could be an excellent retcon link to the character in the FotR through the infamous moth.
Sorry about the tirade, but people are seriously putting their cart before the horses with this speculation. It would be one thing if there was even something remotely hinting at the idea, but Sylvester McCoy has quite adamantly said that he hasn't even shot a single scene with Christopher Lee at this point. Everything speaks against the murder-theory.
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Could PJ kill off Radagast?
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chris10112
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Nov 24 2012, 4:28pm
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Many have speculated so
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DanielLB
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Nov 24 2012, 4:31pm
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I'm assuming he will.
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Elutherian
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Nov 24 2012, 4:32pm
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but...
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jimmyfenn
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Nov 24 2012, 4:36pm
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Not in the films. He appears in FOTR book. /
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DanielLB
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Nov 24 2012, 4:37pm
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Doubtful
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Lightice
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Nov 24 2012, 4:36pm
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That old trope
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chris10112
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Nov 24 2012, 4:39pm
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There was an interesting discussion
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DanielLB
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Nov 24 2012, 4:43pm
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Ta, fella
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chris10112
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Nov 24 2012, 4:44pm
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It's not about shock value...
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Elutherian
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Nov 24 2012, 5:12pm
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If he dies...
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T_Meyers
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Nov 24 2012, 5:26pm
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Even more unlikely
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Lightice
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Nov 24 2012, 7:27pm
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I don't see why Saruman's betrayal should be a surprise in FOTR...
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Elutherian
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Nov 24 2012, 8:08pm
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Visuals
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Eleniel
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Nov 24 2012, 8:17pm
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Sorry, I don't see it
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Lightice
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Nov 24 2012, 9:10pm
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He doesn't HAVE to die....
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Elutherian
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Nov 24 2012, 9:12pm
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The theory
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Fredeghar Wayfarer
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Nov 24 2012, 10:14pm
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In my childhood
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totoro
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Nov 24 2012, 10:28pm
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I'll not be happy if raddy is knifed
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totoro
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Nov 24 2012, 10:36pm
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I dont want Radagast to die either.
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Elenorflower
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Nov 24 2012, 10:55pm
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Radagast will die...
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painjoiker
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Nov 24 2012, 11:33pm
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I was almost sure about it previously
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Faenoriel
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Nov 25 2012, 1:29pm
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Exactly...
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Eleniel
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Nov 24 2012, 11:05pm
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On the Saruman FOTR point, I don't see that as any great issue.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Nov 25 2012, 1:34pm
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Even in FotR
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totoro
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Nov 25 2012, 10:26pm
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Not sure he is all that unfallen
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Nov 25 2012, 10:38pm
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All we know by now is that Radagast's sled bunnies were cooked by Sam.//
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Plurmo
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Nov 24 2012, 6:55pm
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Which is why he refuses to help anyone in LotR.//
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Faenoriel
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Nov 24 2012, 10:42pm
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PJ will probably choose to kill him off, but almost certainly not in film 1
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Radagast-Aiwendil
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Nov 24 2012, 7:43pm
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If they kill him off
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Elenorflower
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Nov 24 2012, 10:35pm
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I dislike GoT for that reason alone nt
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totoro
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Nov 24 2012, 10:37pm
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I've always, and still, dislike this line of thinking....
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Bladerunner
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Nov 24 2012, 11:42pm
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Radagast
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Elenorflower
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Nov 25 2012, 1:48am
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