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Captain Salt
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Nov 24 2012, 7:06pm
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The Hill of Sorcery?
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As AUJ approaches, it seems the Necromancer/White Council storyline is coming slowly but surely into place. However, there's still a fair amount we don't know as to how exactly things are going to play out. Listening to the score again, a track which stands out is "The Hill of Sorcery", which is placed in-between the Trollshaw and the attack of Wargs. Going on what we know, what on Earth is happening here? -Benedict Cumberbatch AKA The Necromancer, is not in AUJ (or at least, has been removed from the official cast list) -Gandy's scene where he's stalked through the ruins of Dol Guldur has been pushed back to Film 2, according to Empire...however, there may be two of these sequences, one where has not yet obtained Glamdring and encounters Thrain, another where he has Glamdring and fights Bolg...or are these both part of the same scene? -The track itself begins a light repetition of the Hobbit theme, (probably a transition from the Trollshaw to Mirkwood), then the "spider motif" also heard in the track "Radagast the Brown", there's a quieter low-key grim mid-section, and ends with a dramatic rendition of the "Mordor/Sauron" theme With these in mind, what could be happening at this point at Dol Guldur? IMO, it's likely we'll get a "fly-by" shot similar to how PJ approached Isengard in TTT, with some of the denizens of the fortress kind of lurking/moving about...but the majority of the scene will probably be Orc plotting/going after Raddy as he escapes the attack on Rhosgobel? Can't imagine how the Sauron theme comes into play, however, unless the Necro has a non-speaking cameo (though shouldn't BC still be credited as he performed mo-cap for the character as well)?
My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit" 5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck 4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot 3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan 2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate 1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!
(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Nov 24 2012, 7:10pm)
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The Hill of Sorcery?
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Captain Salt
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Nov 24 2012, 7:06pm
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I thought it Elrond's scenes with the White Council at DG
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Eleniel
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Nov 24 2012, 7:10pm
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Here it is on Empire Page 64:
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Captain Salt
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Nov 24 2012, 7:16pm
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To be fair...
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Elutherian
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Nov 24 2012, 7:32pm
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I doubt Empire on this one
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Lightice
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Nov 24 2012, 7:35pm
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Hil of Sorcery is on the score, but that doesn't mean Gandy is there in Film 1...
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Captain Salt
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Nov 24 2012, 7:45pm
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Ah, yes, the clips of Gandalf fighting zombie Thrain were only ever in the teaser...
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Eleniel
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Nov 24 2012, 7:42pm
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I agree that the narrative could get quite messy if they don't show the Thrain sequence
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Captain Salt
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Nov 24 2012, 7:51pm
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I don't think we'll see Gandalf in Dol Guldur in film 1
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Aitieuriskon
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Nov 24 2012, 8:08pm
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Just checked the Visual Companion...
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Eleniel
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Nov 24 2012, 8:34pm
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There are indeed 2 separate scenes of Gandalf exploring ruins SPOILERS
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Aitieuriskon
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Nov 24 2012, 7:55pm
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Soundtrack
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Eleniel
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Nov 24 2012, 8:13pm
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yes!
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Aitieuriskon
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Nov 24 2012, 8:18pm
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Intriguing speculations!
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Captain Salt
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Nov 24 2012, 8:36pm
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Ah, I'd forgotten the details of the Comic-Con footage...
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Eleniel
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Nov 24 2012, 8:42pm
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It is possible, however unlikey, that between the Wizard rescing the company and the first warg attack
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AinurOlorin
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Nov 24 2012, 9:59pm
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I think Gandalf is called away
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totoro
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Nov 24 2012, 10:21pm
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Agreed, I've considered this as well.
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Captain Salt
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Nov 25 2012, 1:14am
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Is it possible
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GothmogTheBalrog
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Nov 25 2012, 7:39pm
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Somewhere in Rivendell...
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dave_lf
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Nov 26 2012, 2:39pm
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Or the title could be misleading
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Faenoriel
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Nov 24 2012, 10:40pm
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True, but Gandalf has to go somewhere, right? nt
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totoro
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Nov 24 2012, 11:05pm
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And that somewhere must be near
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Faenoriel
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Nov 24 2012, 11:10pm
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In the Weta Chronicles book
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Aitieuriskon
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Nov 24 2012, 11:40pm
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Nice to have confirmation the Nazgul tomb is basically standing in for the barrow-downs in this tale...
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Captain Salt
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Nov 25 2012, 1:10am
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Don't forget the abounded farmhouse!
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DanielLB
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Nov 25 2012, 9:32am
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Wouldn't it be somewhat ironic,
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painjoiker
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Nov 25 2012, 3:18pm
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Yes, quite possibly...or the trolls?
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Captain Salt
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Nov 25 2012, 5:51pm
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Has someone been watching Bill & Ted recently?
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DanielLB
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Nov 25 2012, 6:00pm
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Heehee...so, Keanu's rumored cameo hanging out with Hugo on the White Council hasn't made the cut?
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Captain Salt
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Nov 25 2012, 6:17pm
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Unless its named anything specifically
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DanielLB
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Nov 25 2012, 6:28pm
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Isengard is even farther from The Shire than Dol Guldur is from The Troll Shaws
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AinurOlorin
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Nov 25 2012, 3:29am
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Travel at the speed of plot.
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Fardragon
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Nov 25 2012, 8:35am
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Lol.Indeed, Fardragon.
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AinurOlorin
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Nov 26 2012, 9:16am
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Gandalf at Dol Guldur could now very well open DoS as a kind of Prologue
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sycorax82
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Nov 25 2012, 12:20am
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I will make a guess
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Vangalad
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Nov 25 2012, 12:37am
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Bomby Agrees! ///
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Bombadil
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Nov 25 2012, 1:08am
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Sounds good. //
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Faenoriel
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Nov 25 2012, 1:26pm
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Here I thought...
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Aragalen the Green
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Nov 25 2012, 7:33pm
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Hmmm - the Tomb scene definitely takes place after Trollshaws
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Nov 25 2012, 6:37pm
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So it must be..
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Nov 25 2012, 7:11pm
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