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Magpie
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Nov 22 2012, 5:35pm
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I'm having a strong reaction to your description of a mother who loves her children even when they do something wrong as 'not rational'. But let me move on from that. :-)
You "can totally understand how they are so engrossed in their lives work that what they see on the screen is not what they envisioned and so dont think it captures the fullness and beauty of their work."
You think they don't like the films (or might not like them) because they are too close as if being 'too close' is a malady that could and maybe should get cured. Just by putting 'too' on it you have pushed it into an 'extreme' condition.
I don't think that being close is a malady and I don't think it needs to be cured. There is not only room for all schools of thought there is, I contend, a NEED for many schools of thought on issues like this. The different schools help keep things in balance and sometimes, what we need is a cold, calculating assessment of the issue (like Sam being dead certain that Gollum was a Stinker up to no good) and sometimes what we need is a more emotional assessment (like Frodo showing Pity to Smeagol because he could empathize with the creature).
But I think it's a mistake to even say that 'they don't get the beauty because they're too close'. How does that excuse hold up for the thousands if not millions of other people who don't like these movies? There could easily be many reasons that Christopher doesn't like the movies other than he's 'too close'. He certainly isn't be the only one who didn't. Dang, some people who 'like' the films don't always 'like' them. (glances at self in mirror)
I think that Christopher and JRR (we can suppose) are perfectly entitled to not like the films for whatever reason they like. We don't have to make excuses for them and I certainly don't think we have to value Simon's reaction over Christopher in any way, shape, or form.
When we try to qualify using words as 'reasoned' or 'rational', I think we're treading on dangerous ground. There is, imo, no need at all to do that.
We can accept Christopher's viewpoints and respect them as his... without judgment.
But this is kind of what mothers do with their children. We accept them. We don't withdraw that acceptance, affection, or love when they don't think like us or follow the paths we have chosen or make the decisions we would have made.
My dear imin... don't get caught up in seeing this sort of acceptance as negating rational thought. It doesn't.
:-)
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Simon Tolkien comments on the film adaptations on BBC radio....
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dormouse
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Nov 22 2012, 1:09pm
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doesn't he rather say...
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Elthir
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Nov 22 2012, 2:07pm
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Yes, sorry
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dormouse
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Nov 22 2012, 2:44pm
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No problem...
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Elthir
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Nov 23 2012, 1:06am
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He likes the one i like the best :)
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imin
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Nov 22 2012, 3:34pm
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to be fair...
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Magpie
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Nov 22 2012, 4:10pm
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fair minded sit with you better?
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imin
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Nov 22 2012, 4:31pm
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third attempt
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Magpie
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Nov 22 2012, 5:35pm
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hmm not sure how to respond to this, lol
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imin
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Nov 22 2012, 5:52pm
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It's possible there is a cultural context to terms like 'irrationality' ...
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Magpie
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Nov 22 2012, 6:17pm
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oh sorry i didnt mean it that way at all
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imin
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Nov 22 2012, 6:27pm
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you got the point I was trying to make!
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Magpie
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Nov 22 2012, 6:53pm
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I finally got there in the end, haha!
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imin
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Nov 22 2012, 8:12pm
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wow i have totally derailed this thread! Sorry! //
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imin
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Nov 22 2012, 6:29pm
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Thank you! //
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sador
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Nov 22 2012, 6:41pm
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I was interested in the question
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Elenorflower
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Nov 23 2012, 1:40am
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Validity by degrees
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 23 2012, 10:37am
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Sword straightness
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Noel Q. von Schneiffel
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Nov 23 2012, 3:19pm
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fair enough
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Elenorflower
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Nov 23 2012, 5:24pm
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I don't understand how your imagination can be at fault?
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 23 2012, 10:37pm
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