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sador
Half-elven
Nov 22 2012, 3:53pm
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In The Hobbit alone, you are right.
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However Tolkien from the outset conceived of the Necromancer as the archvillain who will later be called Sauron. And there are a couple of hints in the Silmarillion drafts that Sauron will trouble the world for a long time yet.
So as long as The Hobbit was conceived as being set soon after the Elder Days, the Necromancer had a long career in front of him. Only when Tolkien decided that he had returned, he also decided to move the events of The Hobbit to the end of the Third Age.
"As all things come to an end, even this story..."
Here we read of Bilbo, who is “quiet and drowsy”, that “every now and again he would open one eye” and listen to Gandalf’s tale. Is Tolkien deliberately echoing this passage in LOTR when he writes, “At that Bilbo opened an eye, almost as if he had heard … ‘You see, I am getting so sleepy’, he said.”?
- N.E. Brigand
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The Last Stage, part V - Prophecies and Providence
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sador
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Nov 20 2012, 7:33pm
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The Necromancer
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Hamfast Gamgee
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Nov 20 2012, 11:26pm
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In The Hobbit alone, you are right.
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sador
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Nov 22 2012, 3:53pm
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The name of the Necromancer
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FarFromHome
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Nov 24 2012, 5:43pm
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But I thought
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sador
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Nov 25 2012, 9:11am
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That's the odd thing.
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FarFromHome
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Nov 25 2012, 10:52am
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prophecy, providence and pforesight
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telain
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Nov 22 2012, 6:22pm
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True or false viviosns?
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sador
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Nov 23 2012, 10:48am
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Both no and yes...
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FarFromHome
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Nov 24 2012, 5:13pm
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Thank you!
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sador
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Nov 25 2012, 9:52am
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Thank you for the excellent summary
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FarFromHome
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Nov 25 2012, 3:53pm
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Gandalf had a lotta splainin' to do!
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squire
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Dec 1 2012, 8:11pm
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The Hobbit a train wreck as a prequel to Lotr?????????????
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Hamfast Gamgee
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Dec 4 2012, 12:21am
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Thanks for a wonderful post!
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Ardamírë
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Dec 3 2012, 9:15pm
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