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Eledhwen
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Nov 22 2012, 7:56am


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Most publications don't have two separate teams for online and print - you're a journalist writing for a newspaper or magazine, and you write for both online and print. The staff which are losing are the sub-editors; many publications or companies including my own have slashed their sub-editing teams.

As for your Newsweek example - the fact that people have been reading in a shop without buying is exactly what's killed the print editions. If nobody's buying, how is a company supposed to produce a publication? The media is a not a human right, it is a business, and while as a journalist it's frustrating having to write stuff because someone's sponsored I do understand the commercial drivers. Someone has to pay for what we produce, whether that's subscriptions or advertising. If you've been reading Newsweek in a shop without buying you have contributed to the death of the print edition.

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Subject User Time
Hobbit film-makers ban journalist from covering premier Moahunter Send a private message to Moahunter Nov 21 2012, 5:24am
    Scratches head Starling Send a private message to Starling Nov 21 2012, 5:59am
        Very odd. Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Nov 21 2012, 6:10am
            I'm so angry Starling Send a private message to Starling Nov 21 2012, 6:15am
        I almost would like to boycott this spectacle now! Danielos Send a private message to Danielos Nov 21 2012, 7:54am
        This isn't a violation of free speech easterlingchief1 Send a private message to easterlingchief1 Nov 21 2012, 3:09pm
    They are entitled to invite who they want as guests at their expense if it is a press junket. ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Nov 21 2012, 7:20am
        I consider Radio New Zealand National Starling Send a private message to Starling Nov 21 2012, 7:57am
    Odd decision DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 21 2012, 7:59am
        Personal animosity? Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 21 2012, 9:22am
            Well, Starling Send a private message to Starling Nov 21 2012, 9:47am
                On the contrary Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 21 2012, 9:56am
        Hobbit: pros and cons Danielos Send a private message to Danielos Nov 21 2012, 5:17pm
    Well, it's different to silence a negative opinion of someone who saw the movie Fàfnir Send a private message to Fàfnir Nov 21 2012, 10:02am
        Exactly. Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 21 2012, 10:18am
            Taking the sides Danielos Send a private message to Danielos Nov 21 2012, 10:26am
                That's hardly fair dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Nov 21 2012, 10:41am
                    Studios do this all the time easterlingchief1 Send a private message to easterlingchief1 Nov 21 2012, 3:40pm
                    "Whoever decided to bar her has their reasons. Without knowing what those are, no one is in a position to say whether they were right or wrong." Rohirrim Rider Send a private message to Rohirrim Rider Nov 21 2012, 5:43pm
                        additionally... Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Nov 21 2012, 6:42pm
                            This. So much this! I'm still steamed Eowyn of Penns Woods Send a private message to Eowyn of Penns Woods Nov 21 2012, 7:57pm
                She already didn't handle herself well in that clip, i don't like her. ;) Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Nov 21 2012, 11:16am
                Well.... Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Nov 21 2012, 11:16am
    goodness, why so much scandalous hubub recently a week before the premier?... ... funny timing I say. // Xanaseb Send a private message to Xanaseb Nov 21 2012, 12:38pm
        Yes, I was also wondering Antalasse Send a private message to Antalasse Nov 21 2012, 1:29pm
            well.... this is kind of what I meant with the phrase 'opportune time' Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Nov 21 2012, 1:40pm
                Get something controversial or you won't be noticed? Antalasse Send a private message to Antalasse Nov 21 2012, 1:54pm
    Jackson spokesman says it's not them... Demosthenes Send a private message to Demosthenes Nov 21 2012, 1:14pm
        So that's why I wasn't invited to the premiere. SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Nov 21 2012, 2:21pm
            But don't you see, your allegations make no sense! Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 21 2012, 2:38pm
                No free food and drink Demosthenes Send a private message to Demosthenes Nov 21 2012, 3:25pm
                    Well Well Wellington? Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Nov 21 2012, 3:50pm
            Crappy world we live in Tim Send a private message to Tim Nov 21 2012, 5:18pm
    there does seem to be an Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Nov 21 2012, 4:39pm
        possibly Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Nov 21 2012, 5:03pm
        Films like The Hobbit are gigantic pies... thoon Send a private message to thoon Nov 21 2012, 5:25pm
            Not PJ Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Nov 21 2012, 6:37pm
                i have found in life Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Nov 21 2012, 10:49pm
        I believe there are those in NZ Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 22 2012, 7:21am
            That rather ironic, if you think that, Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Nov 22 2012, 12:43pm
                The British East India Company Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 22 2012, 2:26pm
                    thats a ridiculous comparison Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Nov 22 2012, 2:33pm
                        In what way? Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 22 2012, 2:50pm
                            er Wingnut Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Nov 22 2012, 4:49pm
                                The East India Company Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 22 2012, 5:57pm
                                    Australian cameragod Send a private message to cameragod Nov 22 2012, 6:16pm
                                    are you implying Wingnut is Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Nov 23 2012, 12:15am
                                        No Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 23 2012, 7:43am
                                            My flabber, she is gasted. *backs slowly away from thread*// Eowyn of Penns Woods Send a private message to Eowyn of Penns Woods Nov 23 2012, 9:54am
                                            This became stupidly political here in NZ ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Nov 23 2012, 10:00am
                                                I'm not comparing it to COLONIAL india Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 23 2012, 3:57pm
                                                    That's an interesting thing to say Tim Send a private message to Tim Nov 23 2012, 5:15pm
                                                        Actually, the danger depends upon where the power lies totoro Send a private message to totoro Nov 23 2012, 5:25pm
                                                            In most government in history... Tim Send a private message to Tim Nov 23 2012, 6:22pm
                                                                Companies And People JWPlatt Nov 23 2012, 6:38pm
                                                                    No I haven't forgotten that Tim Send a private message to Tim Nov 23 2012, 6:47pm
                                                        The Tragedy Of Truth JWPlatt Nov 23 2012, 5:46pm
                                                            if you say so Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Nov 23 2012, 6:04pm
                                                                Awareness JWPlatt Nov 23 2012, 6:12pm
                                            Fardragon Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Nov 23 2012, 5:41pm
            I have not seen that at all and don't agree it's the case. Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Nov 22 2012, 4:39pm
    The marketing company has been very shortsighted. Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Nov 21 2012, 7:20pm
        ban lifted cameragod Send a private message to cameragod Nov 21 2012, 7:38pm
            Someone's gonna get fired LoremIpsum Send a private message to LoremIpsum Nov 21 2012, 8:18pm
        Bomby's College degree is in Radio TV Film 1972 Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Nov 21 2012, 7:48pm
    The ban has been rescinded! Go WingNut Films! Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Nov 21 2012, 7:37pm
        I don't want to sound a like a total fanboy here easterlingchief1 Send a private message to easterlingchief1 Nov 21 2012, 8:53pm
            No, Chief... Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Nov 22 2012, 4:26am
        Smart decision.// Demosthenes Send a private message to Demosthenes Nov 21 2012, 10:32pm
    Screw the media R11 Send a private message to R11 Nov 21 2012, 8:11pm
        R11.."Ditto".,...Bomby/// Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Nov 21 2012, 8:37pm
        As a journalist ... Eledhwen Send a private message to Eledhwen Nov 21 2012, 10:01pm
            Yes Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Nov 22 2012, 6:06am
                Er, no Eledhwen Send a private message to Eledhwen Nov 22 2012, 7:56am
                    So... Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Nov 22 2012, 6:19pm
                        But you're conflating two things Eledhwen Send a private message to Eledhwen Nov 22 2012, 9:58pm
    Wingnut, ie PJ and Co, show their quality yet again. Article. Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Nov 21 2012, 9:03pm
        Well this is good news SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Nov 22 2012, 3:59am
            Perhaps Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Nov 22 2012, 4:18am
            No, don't lose heart. Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Nov 22 2012, 6:07am
                It is acceptable to see that they had a right ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Nov 22 2012, 10:14am
                    As with most conflicts you can argue endlessly about who fired the first shot. Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 22 2012, 11:41am
            Stepping up Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Nov 22 2012, 6:19pm
                React? SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Nov 22 2012, 11:06pm
                    Yes you are Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Nov 22 2012, 11:18pm
                    Opinions are like... Tim Send a private message to Tim Nov 23 2012, 12:08am
                        Tim I fully agree with your statement Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Nov 23 2012, 12:38am
                            Please remember that all opinions are welcome here Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Nov 23 2012, 5:58am
                        It's not a difference of opinion that is the problem here SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Nov 23 2012, 2:49am
                            I'm not really sure what people expect on a public message board Tim Send a private message to Tim Nov 23 2012, 3:16am
                                It wasn't only the perspective of the journalist that we had to go on Starling Send a private message to Starling Nov 23 2012, 3:24am
                            Hey, Sir Dennis Starling Send a private message to Starling Nov 23 2012, 3:18am
                            Barbarians At The Gate JWPlatt Nov 23 2012, 5:33am
                                *A public service message*:) Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Nov 23 2012, 8:05am
                            sorry Sir Dennis for any misunderstanding. Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Nov 23 2012, 5:32pm
                                It doesn't matter who it was directed to Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Nov 23 2012, 5:35pm
    In case there is any confusion, I would like to point out Starling Send a private message to Starling Nov 22 2012, 5:07am
        Thanks, Starling Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Nov 22 2012, 1:17pm

 
 
 

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