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sador
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Nov 20 2012, 2:21pm
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I haven't yet finished the fifth and last thread of this chapter, and I also want to respond to others who have participated in this discussion... I actually began an answer to you on the poetry thread, and then my computer crashed.
I've made this argument before
How could I have missed it?  Well, I miss so much on the Hobbit Movie board - which as a rule I follow more out of a sense of being updated with the community than because I understand all the speculations or am particulary interested in them for themselves.
But this was a very interesting debate over there - thank you!
But the Master is quite a modern character, don't you think? Of course he is! Which is why I tread softly...
My e-book (bought in the last few months) has the same, although it's probably based on the same edition. Do you know if other currently available editions do have pipe-weed instead?
No such change was ever made. The story is different.
In 1960, Tolkien decided to re-write The Hobbit, in order to bring it more into line with The Lord of the Rings. He thoroughly revised the first chapter, and completely rewrote the second. However, he was persuaded to drop it, with the argument "It's wonderful, but it isn't The Hobbit". So when revising the book for the 1965 reprint, he made only minor corrections.
The whole story is told, and the second chapter published (under the name The Broken Bridge), by Rateliff in The History of the Hobbit. Personally, I only half-agree with those who dissuaded Tolkien from following it to the end: I agree that it is not The Hobbit, but I don't like it at all: The action is more consistent with the geography of Eriador as we know it, but it makes all the characters as flat as pancakes. I particulary resented the redrawing of Bombur.
In that rewrite, every occasion of "tobacco" is changed to "pipe-weed". But these amendments never made it to the published text.
"As all things come to an end, even this story..."
Here we read of Bilbo, who is “quiet and drowsy”, that “every now and again he would open one eye” and listen to Gandalf’s tale. Is Tolkien deliberately echoing this passage in LOTR when he writes, “At that Bilbo opened an eye, almost as if he had heard … ‘You see, I am getting so sleepy’, he said.”?
- N.E. Brigand
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The Last Stage, part IV - Politics and Property
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sador
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Nov 18 2012, 4:44pm
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Thoughts
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Otaku-sempai
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Nov 18 2012, 9:13pm
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I'm not so sure
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sador
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Nov 20 2012, 8:43am
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For the most part, I agree...
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Otaku-sempai
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Nov 20 2012, 1:02pm
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Tales and terminology
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FarFromHome
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Nov 18 2012, 9:40pm
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''wizard' as a general term?
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sador
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Nov 20 2012, 9:32am
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Hope you don't mind....
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FarFromHome
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Nov 20 2012, 11:07am
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Not at all, but also yes
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sador
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Nov 20 2012, 2:21pm
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His arm has grown long
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CuriousG
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Nov 20 2012, 2:50pm
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*embarrassed*
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FarFromHome
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Nov 21 2012, 8:45am
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The magic of politics
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CuriousG
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Nov 20 2012, 12:58pm
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Answering without explaining
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sador
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Nov 22 2012, 3:48pm
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