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Statements from producers and American Humane Association

Lissuin
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Nov 20 2012, 9:38am


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All we've heard today is pretty one-sided. Here is some alternate interpretation of events.

1) American Humane Association review of The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey:

http://www.americanhumanefilmtv.org/...-unexpected-journey/

2) From producers of The Hobbit, as reported in Deadline Hollywood today http://www.deadline.com/...animal-death-claims/:

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The Hobbit production has always instituted swift and immediate investigations in to any concerns of any kind over the treatment of animals under its care. A prompt and thorough investigation into the recent unsubstantiated allegations by the American organisation, PETA, in to the ‘hobbling’ of a horse during the making of The Hobbit was undertaken. No evidence of such a practice was found to have occurred at any time. Further, the production contacted the owner of the horse concerned who provided the following statement: “I am 100% happy with the return of Shanghai and his condition. In the term that he was leased he was picked up and returned to me two times. On both occasions there was not a mark on him and he was healthy and happy. He has shown no signs of ill-treatment. I would not hesitate in leasing him to the movie again.”
To date, the only horse wranglers whose treatment of animals fell below the production’s standard of care seem to be the two wranglers who have chosen to level this new accusation on the eve of the premiere of the first Hobbit film and who were dismissed by the production over a year ago. Reports of their actions are documented in several written statements dating back to October 2011.

The production regrets that PETA has chosen to make such a serious accusation, which has distressed many of the dedicated Kiwis who worked with animals on the films – including trainers, wranglers, care-givers, farm workers and animal health care professionals - without properly vetting the source from which they received this information.



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The producers of The Hobbit take the welfare of all animals very seriously and have always pursued the highest standard of care for animals in their charge. Any incidents that occurred that were brought to their attention as regards to this care were immediately investigated and appropriate action taken. This includes hundreds of thousands of dollars that were spent on upgrading housing and stable facilities in early 2011.

The producers completely reject the accusations that twenty seven animals died due to mistreatment during the making of the films. Extraordinary measures were taken to make sure that animals were not used during action sequences or any other sequence that might create undue stress for the animals involved. Over fifty five per cent of all shots using animals in The Hobbit are in fact computer generated; this includes horses, ponies, rabbits, hedgehogs, birds, deer, elk, mice, wild boars, and wolves.

The American Humane Association (AHA) was on hand to monitor all use of animals by the production. No animals died or were harmed on set during filming.

We regret that some of these accusations by wranglers who were dismissed from the film over a year ago are only now being brought to our attention. We are currently investigating these new allegations and are attempting to speak with all parties involved to establish the truth.


I don't want animals to die or suffer in the making of any film - on or off set (and neither, I'm absolutely certain, do the film makers) - AND I don't want accusations of mistreatment as reported in the press to be accepted as fact without an investigation. We have the Associated Press report of things the wranglers claim happened, and we have the producers' statements here and in several articles today that when problems were reported, steps were taken to correct them. In any case, let the AHA or an officially appointed New Zealand organization continue to make sure that animals used in all forms of entertainment are safe.

Subject User Time
"Wranglers say 'Hobbit' animals died on unsafe farm" N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Nov 19 2012, 4:24pm
    AP did the legwork, it seems Demosthenes Send a private message to Demosthenes Nov 19 2012, 4:28pm
        Thanks. // N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Nov 19 2012, 4:42pm
    I'm all for animal welfare DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 19 2012, 4:31pm
        If you READ. closely near the End.. Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Nov 19 2012, 4:38pm
        Animals sam90 Send a private message to sam90 Nov 19 2012, 5:28pm
    Weren't there simililar shadowdog Send a private message to shadowdog Nov 19 2012, 5:34pm
    But those rumours were debunked macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Nov 19 2012, 5:37pm
        I seem to remember this being a guy who had no proof trying to blame the production Carne Send a private message to Carne Nov 19 2012, 5:52pm
            If it's the story I remember from a few months back Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Nov 19 2012, 5:58pm
                And as long as Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 19 2012, 7:38pm
                I remember ... comandantedavid Send a private message to comandantedavid Nov 19 2012, 7:40pm
                    Here's the story about "proper channels": comandantedavid Send a private message to comandantedavid Nov 19 2012, 7:43pm
            No the original LOTR claims were pretty thoroughly debunked Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 19 2012, 7:40pm
    A better article than the previous one, thanks NEB {nt} SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Nov 20 2012, 2:50am
    A longer comment from Jackson SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Nov 20 2012, 6:18am
    Full statement from Peter Jackson: Username4242 Send a private message to Username4242 Nov 20 2012, 6:44am
        Thanks, I missed this. DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 20 2012, 8:10am
            One more time Daniel? SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Nov 20 2012, 3:47pm
                I've only just noticed! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 20 2012, 4:20pm
    Statements from producers and American Humane Association Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Nov 20 2012, 9:38am
        Timely fodder by PETA ceppault Send a private message to ceppault Nov 20 2012, 9:48pm
    And see Home page article just posted Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Nov 20 2012, 9:40am
        There is a discrepancy between PETA's claims and the AP report Demosthenes Send a private message to Demosthenes Nov 20 2012, 1:55pm
    PETA campaign? TheHutt Send a private message to TheHutt Nov 20 2012, 2:06pm
        There's supposed to be a protest at the premiere in Wellington. DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 20 2012, 2:16pm
            Probably. TheHutt Send a private message to TheHutt Nov 20 2012, 2:27pm
                I have totaly lost respect for PETA a long time ago... The Preciousss Send a private message to The Preciousss Nov 20 2012, 3:49pm
                    Here is a the Link: The Preciousss Send a private message to The Preciousss Nov 20 2012, 4:03pm
                    People like them make all animal protectors look bad Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 20 2012, 6:25pm
    Have there been any reports about how many cows, pigs, and chickens were slaughtered to feed the crew? Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 20 2012, 3:54pm
        Why would there be? Tim Send a private message to Tim Nov 20 2012, 4:32pm
            PETA - people eating tasty animals // imin Send a private message to imin Nov 20 2012, 4:35pm
            Imma just leave this here... Eowyn of Penns Woods Send a private message to Eowyn of Penns Woods Nov 20 2012, 6:28pm
                *copies, saves* :D / Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Nov 20 2012, 8:35pm
                Flawless victory. // Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 20 2012, 9:00pm
                    Victory over whom, exactly? // Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 20 2012, 9:43pm
                        The rising argument. Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 20 2012, 10:56pm
                            "beating the dead horse" - Wow. // Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 20 2012, 11:15pm
                                Yep. // Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 21 2012, 4:00pm
    poor old PJ Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Nov 21 2012, 12:36am
        Poor old PJ perhaps... squitzl Send a private message to squitzl Nov 21 2012, 2:33am
            If PETA really cared Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 21 2012, 4:05pm
            absolutely Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Nov 21 2012, 4:10pm
                "its not ok for animals to be harmed, thats obvious." - Really? Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 21 2012, 4:14pm
                    Its ok in certain circumstances imin Send a private message to imin Nov 21 2012, 8:49pm
                    wow! Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Nov 21 2012, 10:35pm
                I understand, but my point was... squitzl Send a private message to squitzl Nov 21 2012, 11:01pm
                    I didnt mention PETA Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Nov 22 2012, 12:51am
    Today's news: Is it [sic] a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury... Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Nov 21 2012, 7:51pm

 
 
 

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