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Lissuin
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Nov 20 2012, 9:38am
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Statements from producers and American Humane Association
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All we've heard today is pretty one-sided. Here is some alternate interpretation of events. 1) American Humane Association review of The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey: http://www.americanhumanefilmtv.org/...-unexpected-journey/ 2) From producers of The Hobbit, as reported in Deadline Hollywood today http://www.deadline.com/...animal-death-claims/:
The Hobbit production has always instituted swift and immediate investigations in to any concerns of any kind over the treatment of animals under its care. A prompt and thorough investigation into the recent unsubstantiated allegations by the American organisation, PETA, in to the ‘hobbling’ of a horse during the making of The Hobbit was undertaken. No evidence of such a practice was found to have occurred at any time. Further, the production contacted the owner of the horse concerned who provided the following statement: “I am 100% happy with the return of Shanghai and his condition. In the term that he was leased he was picked up and returned to me two times. On both occasions there was not a mark on him and he was healthy and happy. He has shown no signs of ill-treatment. I would not hesitate in leasing him to the movie again.” To date, the only horse wranglers whose treatment of animals fell below the production’s standard of care seem to be the two wranglers who have chosen to level this new accusation on the eve of the premiere of the first Hobbit film and who were dismissed by the production over a year ago. Reports of their actions are documented in several written statements dating back to October 2011. The production regrets that PETA has chosen to make such a serious accusation, which has distressed many of the dedicated Kiwis who worked with animals on the films – including trainers, wranglers, care-givers, farm workers and animal health care professionals - without properly vetting the source from which they received this information.
The producers of The Hobbit take the welfare of all animals very seriously and have always pursued the highest standard of care for animals in their charge. Any incidents that occurred that were brought to their attention as regards to this care were immediately investigated and appropriate action taken. This includes hundreds of thousands of dollars that were spent on upgrading housing and stable facilities in early 2011. The producers completely reject the accusations that twenty seven animals died due to mistreatment during the making of the films. Extraordinary measures were taken to make sure that animals were not used during action sequences or any other sequence that might create undue stress for the animals involved. Over fifty five per cent of all shots using animals in The Hobbit are in fact computer generated; this includes horses, ponies, rabbits, hedgehogs, birds, deer, elk, mice, wild boars, and wolves. The American Humane Association (AHA) was on hand to monitor all use of animals by the production. No animals died or were harmed on set during filming. We regret that some of these accusations by wranglers who were dismissed from the film over a year ago are only now being brought to our attention. We are currently investigating these new allegations and are attempting to speak with all parties involved to establish the truth. I don't want animals to die or suffer in the making of any film - on or off set (and neither, I'm absolutely certain, do the film makers) - AND I don't want accusations of mistreatment as reported in the press to be accepted as fact without an investigation. We have the Associated Press report of things the wranglers claim happened, and we have the producers' statements here and in several articles today that when problems were reported, steps were taken to correct them. In any case, let the AHA or an officially appointed New Zealand organization continue to make sure that animals used in all forms of entertainment are safe.
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"Wranglers say 'Hobbit' animals died on unsafe farm"
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N.E. Brigand
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Nov 19 2012, 4:24pm
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AP did the legwork, it seems
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Demosthenes
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Nov 19 2012, 4:28pm
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Thanks. //
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N.E. Brigand
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Nov 19 2012, 4:42pm
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I'm all for animal welfare
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DanielLB
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Nov 19 2012, 4:31pm
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If you READ. closely near the End..
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Bombadil
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Nov 19 2012, 4:38pm
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Animals
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Sam20
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Nov 19 2012, 5:28pm
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Weren't there simililar
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shadowdog
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Nov 19 2012, 5:34pm
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But those rumours were debunked
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macfalk
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Nov 19 2012, 5:37pm
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I seem to remember this being a guy who had no proof trying to blame the production
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Carne
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Nov 19 2012, 5:52pm
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If it's the story I remember from a few months back
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Magpie
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Nov 19 2012, 5:58pm
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And as long as
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Faenoriel
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Nov 19 2012, 7:38pm
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I remember ...
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comandantedavid
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Nov 19 2012, 7:40pm
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Here's the story about "proper channels":
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comandantedavid
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Nov 19 2012, 7:43pm
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No the original LOTR claims were pretty thoroughly debunked
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Nov 19 2012, 7:40pm
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A better article than the previous one, thanks NEB {nt}
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SirDennisC
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Nov 20 2012, 2:50am
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A longer comment from Jackson
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SirDennisC
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Nov 20 2012, 6:18am
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Full statement from Peter Jackson:
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Username4242
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Nov 20 2012, 6:44am
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Thanks, I missed this.
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DanielLB
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Nov 20 2012, 8:10am
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One more time Daniel?
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SirDennisC
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Nov 20 2012, 3:47pm
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I've only just noticed!
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DanielLB
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Nov 20 2012, 4:20pm
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Statements from producers and American Humane Association
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Lissuin
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Nov 20 2012, 9:38am
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Timely fodder by PETA
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ceppault
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Nov 20 2012, 9:48pm
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And see Home page article just posted
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Lissuin
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Nov 20 2012, 9:40am
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There is a discrepancy between PETA's claims and the AP report
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Demosthenes
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Nov 20 2012, 1:55pm
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PETA campaign?
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TheHutt
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Nov 20 2012, 2:06pm
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There's supposed to be a protest at the premiere in Wellington.
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DanielLB
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Nov 20 2012, 2:16pm
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Probably.
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TheHutt
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Nov 20 2012, 2:27pm
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I have totaly lost respect for PETA a long time ago...
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The Preciousss
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Nov 20 2012, 3:49pm
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Here is a the Link:
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The Preciousss
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Nov 20 2012, 4:03pm
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People like them make all animal protectors look bad
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Faenoriel
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Nov 20 2012, 6:25pm
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Have there been any reports about how many cows, pigs, and chickens were slaughtered to feed the crew?
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Kassandros
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Nov 20 2012, 3:54pm
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Why would there be?
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Tim
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Nov 20 2012, 4:32pm
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PETA - people eating tasty animals //
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imin
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Nov 20 2012, 4:35pm
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Imma just leave this here...
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
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Nov 20 2012, 6:28pm
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*copies, saves* :D /
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Ataahua
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Nov 20 2012, 8:35pm
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Flawless victory. //
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Faenoriel
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Nov 20 2012, 9:00pm
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Victory over whom, exactly? //
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Kassandros
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Nov 20 2012, 9:43pm
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The rising argument.
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Faenoriel
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Nov 20 2012, 10:56pm
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"beating the dead horse" - Wow. //
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Kassandros
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Nov 20 2012, 11:15pm
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Yep. //
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Faenoriel
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Nov 21 2012, 4:00pm
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poor old PJ
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Elenorflower
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Nov 21 2012, 12:36am
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Poor old PJ perhaps...
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squitzl
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Nov 21 2012, 2:33am
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If PETA really cared
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Faenoriel
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Nov 21 2012, 4:05pm
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absolutely
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Elenorflower
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Nov 21 2012, 4:10pm
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"its not ok for animals to be harmed, thats obvious." - Really?
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Kassandros
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Nov 21 2012, 4:14pm
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Its ok in certain circumstances
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imin
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Nov 21 2012, 8:49pm
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wow!
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Elenorflower
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Nov 21 2012, 10:35pm
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I understand, but my point was...
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squitzl
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Nov 21 2012, 11:01pm
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I didnt mention PETA
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Elenorflower
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Nov 22 2012, 12:51am
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Today's news: Is it [sic] a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury...
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Lissuin
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Nov 21 2012, 7:51pm
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