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Good old Gandy


Nov 19 2012, 8:58pm

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Good old Gandy [In reply to] Can't Post

1. In the books Gandalf the White seems to wear his grey mantle frequently (like in the Rankin/Bass version of RotK), only removing at times of great need. In the films however Gandalf permanently abandons the grey robe after this scene. Do you approve of this decision? would you have liked to have seen more displays of power from Gandalf or do you enjoy the existing ones more because of their lack of frequency?

I don't have any particular opinion about Gandalf wearing white all the time... maybe it's not quite so, I don't know, modest, but I can understand the film-makers' decision that the casual film-goer ought to be reminded that this is indeed Gandalf the White Who Wears a White Cloak. I think he shows quite enough power (except that EE Witch King scene in ROTK but we'll gloss over that as I don't really consider it to be part of the films Tongue)

2. What did you think of the Gandalf/Saruman duel in this scene? Did you approve of PJ's unusually subtle approach, or would you have preferred to have seen a much more direct approach? Would you have rather had no duel in the first place?

Erm, I don't see what's so subtle about it... Crazy I like the duel - how could it be more direct? We wouldn't want Theoden King thrown about his Golden Hall or nuffink Tongue

I'm not hugely familiar with the book version of The Two Towers, but one image that has stuck with me is, I believe, of Gandalf opening a skylight? I thought that was pretty excellent, tbh, and at one stage after I had gone a long while without seeing the film, I was surprised to watch it and not encounter such a thing Crazy So I would have liked to see that, and I don't think it would have to be instead of the "duel".

3. PJ has stated that he does not always like dealing with wizards in films, due to the often cheesy nature of the special effects used for their magic (though he had Saruman shoot fireball from his staff in the RotK EE). To that end, do you think that PJ made Gandalf appear too weak, or was this necessary in order to adhere to his true purpose (i.e. inspiring the Free Peoples to resist Sauron through guidance as oppose to using overt displays of power).

I think Gandalf showed just enough power without being too much of a "get out of jail free" card or show-off Wink

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SCOD: "You have no power here, Gandalf the Grey" Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Nov 19 2012, 8:29pm
    Good old Gandy FlyingSerkis Send a private message to FlyingSerkis Nov 19 2012, 8:58pm
        When I said subtle I meant in terms of it being a battle of wills Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Nov 19 2012, 9:04pm
            Ah, I see FlyingSerkis Send a private message to FlyingSerkis Nov 19 2012, 9:29pm
    Well I do not ForestPark Nov 21 2012, 1:46am
    In terms of completely abandoning the grey, One Ringer Send a private message to One Ringer Nov 21 2012, 1:20pm
        You filth !! ForestPark Nov 22 2012, 2:09am


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