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slaying with arrows

Grey Havens

Nov 19 2012, 7:01pm

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slaying with arrows [In reply to] Can't Post

As noted in the thread already, Gandalf says: 'One that you cannot slay with arrows' and it's interesting that Tolkien should have Gandalf say this, after the reader has experienced the earlier enounter with fire and water -- the Nine are said to fear fire if I recall correctly, and certainly were 'undone' in some way, for a while at least, after the flood, a physical force.

Does Gandalf mean the arrow (or a fall from a great height) cannot 'slay' the Wraith in the sense that the wraith can just pluck it out, smile, and continue as if nothing, or little enough, had happened?

Or is Gandalf here restating something like what he had noted earlier after the incident at the ford of Bruinen? That the Nine, although they can be 'defeated' by crashing water, cannot be 'ultimately' slain by water, or arrows, or a high fall (although granting that the beast could have died but not necessarily instantly, and maybe after the wraith flew it to the ground).

Subject User Time
Legolas in FOTR iandea14 Send a private message to iandea14 Nov 19 2012, 6:51am
    Gandalf says so sador Send a private message to sador Nov 19 2012, 7:40am
        How does Gandalf know this stuff? squire Send a private message to squire Nov 19 2012, 12:52pm
        TTT iandea14 Send a private message to iandea14 Nov 19 2012, 2:57pm
            Yes. Book III, ch. 5. // sador Send a private message to sador Nov 19 2012, 2:59pm
        Ugl˙k gets in on this too Felagund Send a private message to Felagund Nov 27 2012, 1:48pm
    slaying with arrows Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Nov 19 2012, 7:01pm
        So they are semi-physical? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Nov 19 2012, 10:08pm
            physical but invisible maybe Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Nov 20 2012, 7:00pm


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