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'An Ancient Enemy'

Shagrat
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Nov 15 2012, 1:03pm


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'An Ancient Enemy' [In reply to] Can't Post
Does the second half - especially with 'Thorin's theme' onwards - not sound 'Dwarvish' to you? The first part and very last bit perhaps does not. Possibly the track is misleading, but most of this track sounds more Dwarven to me than Mordor.


(This post was edited by Shagrat on Nov 15 2012, 1:05pm)

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There will be an Azanulbizar prologue in "An Unexpected Journey". Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Nov 14 2012, 9:17pm
    Either its that, or Smaug's assault on Erebor Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 9:19pm
    I was expecting an official confirmation - or at least something from a "source" thomasofrohan Send a private message to thomasofrohan Nov 14 2012, 9:25pm
        The film hasn't been locked down yet DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 14 2012, 9:29pm
            Are you a source? // Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Nov 14 2012, 9:34pm
            Really? Arthael Send a private message to Arthael Nov 14 2012, 10:34pm
        I am a source! Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Nov 14 2012, 9:33pm
            A flying source! The day Middle-earth stands still is upon us! // Plurmo Send a private message to Plurmo Nov 16 2012, 2:19am
    I believe there is no better place for Azanulbizar Apatcha Send a private message to Apatcha Nov 14 2012, 9:25pm
        I have thought this would be the case since the beginning. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Nov 14 2012, 9:32pm
    Are we sure Azanulbizar is even in the films? Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 14 2012, 9:30pm
        If it's brief, and fleshes out the Azog/Bolg vs Durin's line history of vengeance Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 9:32pm
            Like I said, it's fine Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 14 2012, 9:35pm
                Understood Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 9:37pm
                    Because... Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 14 2012, 9:44pm
                        If done right, I think showing Azanulbizar could make the conflict feel more personal and thus more interesting than "everyone hates orcs anyway" thomasofrohan Send a private message to thomasofrohan Nov 14 2012, 9:49pm
                            Agreed. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Nov 14 2012, 10:41pm
                                Great points all around Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 10:46pm
                                If Pj is as subtle as that pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 14 2012, 10:56pm
                                    Perhaps the failures that were King Kong and Lovely Bones Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 11:11pm
                                        Strange thing is pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 14 2012, 11:26pm
                                            Or alternatively Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 14 2012, 11:29pm
                                                A matter of opinion, of course pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 14 2012, 11:34pm
                                                    Ah shot A is deemed to be X Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 14 2012, 11:41pm
                                                        Until we see the films pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 14 2012, 11:53pm
                                                            Or if you are the sort of person Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 14 2012, 11:56pm
                                                                I would reckon pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 15 2012, 12:03am
                                                                    The angle of the horse leg kick was wrong? Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 15 2012, 12:32am
                                                                        Cheap shot pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 15 2012, 12:45am
                                                                            There are MOMENTS entirely about spectacle starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 15 2012, 12:57am
                                                                                It all comes down to pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 15 2012, 1:15am
                                                                                    Immersed Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Nov 15 2012, 1:20am
                                                                                        Or ... pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 15 2012, 1:26am
                                                                                            POV Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Nov 15 2012, 2:05am
                                                                                                With a good imagination... totoro Send a private message to totoro Nov 15 2012, 2:45am
                                                                                                    I dont think I lack an imagination pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 15 2012, 7:27am
                                                                                                        lol nt totoro Send a private message to totoro Nov 16 2012, 9:07am
                                                                            Great example. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 15 2012, 7:39am
                                                                                My own take pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 15 2012, 8:02am
                                                                                    Middle-Earth feels "real" to you? Beutlin Send a private message to Beutlin Nov 15 2012, 12:54pm
                                                                                        Yes, it does pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 15 2012, 2:48pm
                                                                                            Not to mention that this "feigned" history Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 15 2012, 7:57pm
                                                                                            It is a brilliant fictional mythology. But it is not history. Beutlin Send a private message to Beutlin Nov 16 2012, 1:23am
                                                                                        Literary criticism of LOTR seems to be changing Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 15 2012, 4:59pm
                                                                                            Oh, I am not arguing that reception of Tolkien's works will never change. Beutlin Send a private message to Beutlin Nov 16 2012, 1:41am
                                                                                    POV 2 Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Nov 15 2012, 1:52pm
                                                                                    Absolutely Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 15 2012, 4:09pm
                                                            Exactly.... adnan Send a private message to adnan Nov 15 2012, 8:47pm
                                            Heavenly Creatures, yes Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 11:35pm
                                                She knows Tolkien?? ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Nov 15 2012, 7:42am
                                                    Knowing Tolkien starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 15 2012, 7:48pm
                                            Fran is by far the most intelligent writer starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 15 2012, 12:04am
                                                I also get that sense Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 15 2012, 4:40am
                                                    Well starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 15 2012, 6:47am
                                                        If TT had been better... pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 15 2012, 7:31am
                                        King Kong was not a box office failure though. Carne Send a private message to Carne Nov 14 2012, 11:40pm
                                And Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Nov 14 2012, 10:57pm
                                    Agreed thats great stuff pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 14 2012, 11:03pm
                                Absolutely... adnan Send a private message to adnan Nov 15 2012, 8:36pm
                                    Sure... Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 15 2012, 8:38pm
                        I dont think PJ likes coincidences in a story but he loves action sequences, That all very fine with me. Dlanor da Great Send a private message to Dlanor da Great Nov 14 2012, 10:41pm
        It's in. Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 14 2012, 9:32pm
            Curious Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 9:33pm
                Pointless padding Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 14 2012, 9:35pm
                    Azanulbizar is very importantant for an understanding of the Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Nov 14 2012, 9:42pm
                        Everyone hates orcs Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 14 2012, 9:45pm
                            But it's a lot more cinematically interesting Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 10:01pm
                                Agreed! Tim Send a private message to Tim Nov 14 2012, 10:30pm
                                Not really, all orcs are the same Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 15 2012, 8:33am
                                    If all orcs are the same Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Nov 15 2012, 3:02pm
                                        All orcs aren't the same but... Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Nov 15 2012, 3:25pm
                                            I agree Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Nov 15 2012, 3:35pm
                        But none of that is needed Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 14 2012, 9:47pm
            I think I remember that interview Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 14 2012, 9:36pm
                It the one where he talks about playing a younger Thorin Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 14 2012, 9:38pm
                    Plus in Vlog, we see Thorin Fŕfnir Send a private message to Fŕfnir Nov 14 2012, 9:41pm
                        Yup, the BO5A isn't filmed until next year. / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 14 2012, 9:42pm
                            Also, we know from the Official Movie Gude (and perhaps elsewhere) Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Nov 14 2012, 11:30pm
            Im also unsure about this pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 14 2012, 9:47pm
                This is a fear I have as well Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 10:04pm
                    Good point Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 14 2012, 10:05pm
                    Got to admit pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 14 2012, 10:09pm
                    That's because it's not very interesting! Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 15 2012, 8:24am
                        And the Battle of the Last Alliance... Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Nov 15 2012, 12:05pm
                            Thoughts based on music... Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Nov 15 2012, 12:11pm
                            Sure, you can make a battle interesting by focusing on details Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 15 2012, 3:35pm
                                The story can absolutely do without these details Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Nov 15 2012, 3:45pm
                                    I don't see it enriching the films "a great deal" Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 15 2012, 4:16pm
                                        Fortunately for many of us Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Nov 15 2012, 4:52pm
                                            Response. Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 15 2012, 6:26pm
                                                Fardragon, you surprise me Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 15 2012, 6:30pm
                                                1 No, since the decision was made on a base of creativity and lack Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Nov 15 2012, 6:41pm
                                                    Most definitely! Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 15 2012, 8:17pm
                                                        Studio dave_lf Send a private message to dave_lf Nov 15 2012, 8:22pm
                                                        Cheesy? Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 15 2012, 8:25pm
                                                            Cheese free! Tim Send a private message to Tim Nov 15 2012, 8:27pm
                                                            The last alliance scene stank of so much cheese Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 15 2012, 8:31pm
                                                                But there was a lot more to the prologue Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 15 2012, 8:34pm
                                                                    Was there? Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 15 2012, 8:35pm
                                                                        Clearly Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Nov 16 2012, 1:03am
                                        Padding is padding starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 15 2012, 7:46pm
                                            That's your definition of padding Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 16 2012, 6:16am
                                                verisimilitude? Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 16 2012, 8:36am
                                                    Verisimilitude totoro Send a private message to totoro Nov 16 2012, 9:42am
                                                    Who decided that films can't be about truth? Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 16 2012, 11:25pm
                                                        The audience! Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 17 2012, 8:59am
                                                            You seem rather nearsighted. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Nov 17 2012, 7:37pm
                                                                This is what I mean by elitist: Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 18 2012, 8:38am
                                                                    You say your an elitist Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Nov 19 2012, 3:39am
                                                                        You fight like a cow! Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 19 2012, 7:48am
                                                                            Fight? Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Nov 19 2012, 3:13pm
                                                What is good for the goose is good for the gander Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Nov 16 2012, 1:59pm
                                                Every author is guilty of padding starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 16 2012, 11:02pm
                                                    Of course films have time to indulge Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 16 2012, 11:27pm
                                                        Well, yes, but not as much as a book starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 16 2012, 11:35pm
                                                            Agreed Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 16 2012, 11:42pm
                                                                Really? I feel that the atmosphere is one thing he got right. starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 16 2012, 11:53pm
                                                                The more complex the source material Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 17 2012, 3:03pm
                                                                    Really? starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 17 2012, 7:21pm
                                                                    The Prizoner of Azkaban stands out. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Nov 17 2012, 7:40pm
                                                                        Agreed starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 17 2012, 9:06pm
                                                                        Agreed 100% Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 17 2012, 9:07pm
                                                                            Although I am very much a Peter Jackson fan starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 17 2012, 9:25pm
                                                                                During the speculation about who would direct Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 17 2012, 10:21pm
                                                                                He was my first pick when Del Toro left. // Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Nov 18 2012, 2:21am
                                                                                    It pains me to think Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 18 2012, 6:44am
                                                                                        Jackson or Spielberg Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Nov 18 2012, 7:29am
                                                                                            Spielberg & Tolkien?! Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 18 2012, 8:36am
                                                                                                Absolutely Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Nov 18 2012, 3:56pm
                                                                                                Have to agree with Fardragon here Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 18 2012, 7:11pm
                                                                                                    I believe Spielberg has already turned down Star Wars starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 18 2012, 8:06pm
                                                                                                        A few have hedged Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 18 2012, 9:55pm
                                                                            I've seen them all many times Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 18 2012, 8:28am
                                                                                Actually I would have to agree with SA Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 18 2012, 4:39pm
                                                                                Thanks for the armchair psychology, but no Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 18 2012, 7:08pm
                                                                                Not so for me starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 18 2012, 8:05pm
                                                                                    Yup Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 18 2012, 8:16pm
                            Meat on the bone Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Nov 15 2012, 4:42pm
                    By the way. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Nov 17 2012, 2:48am
                        Apart from the Spanish conquistadoresque helmets of the dwarves Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 17 2012, 2:51am
                Character Arcs are actually a good thing. Elutherian Send a private message to Elutherian Nov 14 2012, 10:08pm
                    That depends on the need for an arc pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 14 2012, 10:27pm
                    Yes, yes Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 10:34pm
                    Agreed.// Owain Send a private message to Owain Nov 16 2012, 5:43am
    Maybe the last notes of "A good Omen"... Fŕfnir Send a private message to Fŕfnir Nov 14 2012, 9:35pm
        But dave_lf Send a private message to dave_lf Nov 14 2012, 9:53pm
    Now we have 3 films it's extremely likely sycorax82 Send a private message to sycorax82 Nov 14 2012, 9:39pm
    3 "Prologues" sprinkled throughtout the first half? Arthael Send a private message to Arthael Nov 14 2012, 10:53pm
    I think there is a good chance that we will glimpse The Balrog as well. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 15 2012, 7:42am
        The Balrog = An Ancient Enemy? Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Nov 15 2012, 9:54am
            OK, just had a thought, although I know Shore's -much- better than this.. Xanaseb Send a private message to Xanaseb Nov 15 2012, 11:31am
            Neither Balrog nor Smaug is the "Ancient Enemy" (potential spoilers) Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Nov 15 2012, 12:16pm
                'An Ancient Enemy' Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Nov 15 2012, 1:03pm
                    Yes and no (spoilers) Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Nov 15 2012, 1:15pm
        The Balrog AND the Battle of Anazar-thingy (always spell it wrong)?...Awesome! malickfan Send a private message to malickfan Nov 15 2012, 3:26pm
            Please no Balrog Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 15 2012, 3:32pm
                The Balrog is, in some ways, the most directly significant figure in Third Age Dwarven history. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 16 2012, 12:38am
                    I'm pretty sure Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 16 2012, 12:59am
                        I am half with you. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 16 2012, 1:13am
                            Malfeasance... Tim Send a private message to Tim Nov 16 2012, 5:39am
                                Lol. Why thank you, sir. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 16 2012, 8:26am

 
 
 

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