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Great choice, thanks!

Radagast-Aiwendil
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Nov 14 2012, 6:15pm


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1) How does this image make you feel?

It makes me feel very sympathetic towards Theoden as we see Grima's foul play in action directly against the king. I think that Brad Dourif was excellent in the role, giving the character a sinister, manipulative and almost brooding nature. At this point in particular he is very strong, as he proceeds to taunt Gandalf, his dark mockery providing a great contrast to the majesty of McKellen's performance.

2) Both of the characters in this shot have pretty extreme facial make-up. What do you think of the decision to make Gríma so slimy-looking? What do you make of Théoden’s appearance?

To be honest I was slighty disappointed about the radical difference between Theoden's two appearances (I imagined him as an old man with a long beard, similar to Tolkien's description and similar to the animated Theoden in the Ralph Bakshi version).

I think that Grima's appearance was very effective, with his pale skin tone representing an image of death and decay to my mind. His black hair and costume along with his piercing eyes help to make him a formidable presence onscreen.

3) Music Question! From when our four-person Fellowship enter the Golden Hall, we get some very tension-building music (I believe it is a theme for Wormtongue). Do you think it is appropriate, and how do you think the scene would be with a less obviously tense soundtrack?

Whatever qualms I have may have with the trilogy (mostly only small ones) I cannot fault the choice of music or Shore's score in any way. The beginning of the piece creates a very uncomfortable and unwelcome feeling, emphasizing that the four companions are outsiders. I think the scene could work with a less tense score, but Shore's version is so embedded into my mind that I can't further comment on this.

4) Any further comments?

One of my favourite scenes in TTT. The dialogue between Wormtongue and Gandalf was well-written/chosen for this moment and I very much like the subtle way in which the Gandalf/Saruman "duel" was handled.

"Radagast is, of course, a worthy wizard, a master of shapes and changes of hue, and he has much lore of herbs and beasts, and birds are especially his friends."-Gandalf, The Lord of the Rings.

(This post was edited by Radagast-Aiwendil on Nov 14 2012, 6:18pm)

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SCOD - The words of a snake FlyingSerkis Send a private message to FlyingSerkis Nov 14 2012, 5:56pm
    Brad Dourif is amazing in this scene. I love his delivery of "I told you to take the Wizard's staff!" thomasofrohan Send a private message to thomasofrohan Nov 14 2012, 6:00pm
    Music starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 14 2012, 6:15pm
        IMO, that's the problem with it Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 8:20pm
            "More subtle" is not necessarily "better" thomasofrohan Send a private message to thomasofrohan Nov 14 2012, 10:18pm
                Its a matter of taste Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 11:19pm
            But how many people actually notice something like that? starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 14 2012, 11:53pm
                Most people I have spoken with Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 15 2012, 4:43am
                    That's not the point I was trying to make starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 15 2012, 6:32am
                        Got it Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 15 2012, 6:46am
                    But was Tolkien really subtle himself? // macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Nov 15 2012, 2:02pm
                        Depends on what you mean by subtle Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 15 2012, 6:51pm
                            I love a good bad guy design! starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 15 2012, 7:59pm
                                What do I expect from PJ? Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 15 2012, 8:22pm
                                    Well hope that the dim witted audience members ForestPark Nov 22 2012, 2:22am
                    As you see, GoodGuyA Send a private message to GoodGuyA Nov 15 2012, 5:05pm
            What's subtlety got to do with it? FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Nov 15 2012, 9:39am
        The bit of music I'm talking about, which plays over this, is not in 5/4 FlyingSerkis Send a private message to FlyingSerkis Nov 15 2012, 1:06pm
    Great choice, thanks! Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Nov 14 2012, 6:15pm
    Do I dare to put in my two cents? :P zarabia Send a private message to zarabia Nov 16 2012, 7:00am
        Movie Demographics like LOTR need to appeal to a Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Nov 16 2012, 2:16pm
    Meant to say this earlier, One Ringer Send a private message to One Ringer Nov 21 2012, 1:14pm

 
 
 

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