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starlesswinter
Lorien
Nov 11 2012, 6:57pm
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Trying to understand why these characters are beloved ("I just don't understand what makes a relatively static character so interesting to you") and berating someone for liking them are two very different things. No one in in this thread has done the latter. We're all making our arguments in a civil manner, and there's no reason to feel insulted. Furthermore, these aren't "strong negative opinions" against Tolkien's characters - I think everyone here obviously loves Tolkien's work; we just disagree on some of the decisions he made, which is healthy to do. I, personally, am just trying to justify some of the changes made in the movies, which I happen to think are perfectly valid.
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Can someone explain to me this need for every character to be lordly and proper all the time?
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starlesswinter
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Nov 8 2012, 7:09am
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This might be moved over to the board for the trilogy, as it seems to be more relevant to those films
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MatthewJer18
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Nov 8 2012, 7:14am
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Completely Agree on this!
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Elutherian
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Nov 8 2012, 7:50am
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Film Gimli is nothing like his book self
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DanielLB
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Nov 8 2012, 8:11am
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If you prefer
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 8 2012, 8:27am
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Aragorn is the perfect example of a character who had no need
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 8 2012, 8:58am
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It's not a formulaic cliche - it's what storytelling/character is entirely about
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starlesswinter
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Nov 8 2012, 7:56pm
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What people tend to forget about LotR
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GoodGuyA
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Nov 8 2012, 11:13pm
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will and self-mastery and maybe ...
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Escapist
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Nov 8 2012, 11:29pm
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I think what all this boils down to...
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 6:28pm
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LOTR
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 10 2012, 6:51pm
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LOTR in no way resembles your life?
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Magpie
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Nov 10 2012, 7:09pm
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Magpie after Moving to the Shire in my Mind's Eye
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Bombadil
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Nov 10 2012, 8:57pm
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When a friend I made in Tolkien died unexpectedly...
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Magpie
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Nov 10 2012, 9:54pm
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Magpie! ...Goldberry will be waiting to Meet you..
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Bombadil
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Nov 11 2012, 1:28am
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for you...
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Magpie
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Nov 11 2012, 1:37am
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A wonderful post
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 11 2012, 2:06am
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I'm sure MANY would disagree that he removed the mundane parts
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 7:31pm
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Magpie
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 10 2012, 8:04pm
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aha!
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Magpie
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Nov 10 2012, 8:48pm
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Of course it is formulaic cliche
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 8 2012, 11:56pm
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Not every character has to, but it's important that the main characters do
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 1:06am
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In the book Aragorn is a main character
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 10 2012, 3:36am
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Aragorn
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macfalk
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Nov 10 2012, 10:18am
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Your opinion
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 10 2012, 5:51pm
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RE: Aragorn and Faramir
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 6:57pm
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Exactly
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macfalk
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Nov 11 2012, 12:26pm
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I understand your opinion
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 11 2012, 5:43pm
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Nobody here used those words
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starlesswinter
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Nov 11 2012, 6:57pm
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starless
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 11 2012, 7:42pm
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Re: change
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starlesswinter
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Nov 12 2012, 2:19am
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But too many character arcs in an ensemble
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 12 2012, 3:05am
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True, but...
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starlesswinter
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Nov 12 2012, 3:28am
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Agreed
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 12 2012, 3:59am
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I'm not insulted at all
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 11 2012, 8:19pm
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Sorry, I did not mean to come across that way
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starlesswinter
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Nov 12 2012, 2:13am
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No worries - it didn't bother me at all! {NT}
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 12 2012, 2:14am
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You can't be talking about me surely
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 11 2012, 6:47pm
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I wasn't calling you it specifically
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macfalk
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Nov 11 2012, 9:39pm
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Then again...
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macfalk
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Nov 8 2012, 9:00am
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Aragorn is a better man than the Mouth
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 8 2012, 9:19am
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Good point about Beregond.
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Macfeast
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Nov 8 2012, 1:21pm
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Gimli isnt too bad in FOTR
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imin
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Nov 8 2012, 2:34pm
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Well put imin
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DanielLB
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Nov 8 2012, 3:22pm
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I only remember Gimli burping once...
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Elutherian
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Nov 11 2012, 3:34am
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as regards Gimli
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Elenorflower
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Nov 8 2012, 5:28pm
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This is something that gets at me too
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GoodGuyA
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Nov 8 2012, 6:03pm
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Amen
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starlesswinter
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Nov 8 2012, 8:09pm
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why not create something original then?
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Sinister71
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Nov 8 2012, 9:54pm
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Because you can love something and not think EVERYTHING is well done
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 1:25am
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All or nothing at all
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dreamflower
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Nov 9 2012, 4:49pm
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I don't think
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GothmogTheBalrog
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Nov 9 2012, 4:56pm
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"I meant to do that."
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acheron
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Nov 9 2012, 5:02pm
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Calvin & Hobbes?
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Bombadil
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Nov 9 2012, 10:02pm
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Fanon I like that... LOL
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Sinister71
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Nov 9 2012, 10:03pm
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RE: Gandalf and Bree
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 1:12am
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Re: Gandalf and Bree
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dreamflower
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Nov 10 2012, 2:22am
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Re: Time
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 7:03pm
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But he did not have Shadowfax when he left the Shire
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dreamflower
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Nov 10 2012, 8:29pm
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Honestly I don't think it's something most people even notice
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 11:42pm
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Probably not. But I did.
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dreamflower
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Nov 11 2012, 5:05am
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