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dreamflower
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Nov 10 2012, 8:29pm
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But he did not have Shadowfax when he left the Shire
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Even with the book-verse, it only took the hobbits a week to get to Bree, and that was including a stay with Tom Bombadil and a delay with the barrow-wights. In the movies it is strongly implied that there is only a day between their crossing the Brandywine and arriving in Bree. It took Gandalf twenty days to reach Orthanc; it might not have taken quite so long in the movie-verse, but it still would have taken him longer to just get there than it would have taken the hobbits to get to Bree--and I do not believe that PJ & Co. left a long enough gap to account for it--especially excluding old Tom and the barrow-wights. Even if Gandalf had not been delayed by his imprisonment by Sauron, he COULD NOT have reached Bree before Frodo and Sam did. It's a mistake in continuity is all. It doesn't mean that it's a horrible movie or that I hate it for this reason. But it is still a mistake, and it was made because PJ wanted to get Frodo and Sam out of the Shire quickly, rather than take the time from Gandalf's proof of the Ring's identity in April to Frodo's birthday in September. So he has Gandalf rush them off and tell them to meet him in Bree (which made sense in the book--he had the time for that in the book if he had not been captured)-even though there was no way he could have done it in the movie. (On Shadowfax he did manage the return journey in only twelve days. But without Shadowfax, on an ordinary horse, he never could have done it.)
(This post was edited by dreamflower on Nov 10 2012, 8:32pm)
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Can someone explain to me this need for every character to be lordly and proper all the time?
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starlesswinter
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Nov 8 2012, 7:09am
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This might be moved over to the board for the trilogy, as it seems to be more relevant to those films
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MatthewJer18
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Nov 8 2012, 7:14am
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Completely Agree on this!
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Elutherian
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Nov 8 2012, 7:50am
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Film Gimli is nothing like his book self
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DanielLB
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Nov 8 2012, 8:11am
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If you prefer
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 8 2012, 8:27am
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Aragorn is the perfect example of a character who had no need
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 8 2012, 8:58am
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It's not a formulaic cliche - it's what storytelling/character is entirely about
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starlesswinter
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Nov 8 2012, 7:56pm
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What people tend to forget about LotR
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GoodGuyA
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Nov 8 2012, 11:13pm
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will and self-mastery and maybe ...
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Escapist
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Nov 8 2012, 11:29pm
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I think what all this boils down to...
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 6:28pm
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LOTR
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 10 2012, 6:51pm
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LOTR in no way resembles your life?
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Magpie
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Nov 10 2012, 7:09pm
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Magpie after Moving to the Shire in my Mind's Eye
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Bombadil
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Nov 10 2012, 8:57pm
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When a friend I made in Tolkien died unexpectedly...
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Magpie
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Nov 10 2012, 9:54pm
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Magpie! ...Goldberry will be waiting to Meet you..
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Bombadil
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Nov 11 2012, 1:28am
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for you...
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Magpie
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Nov 11 2012, 1:37am
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A wonderful post
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 11 2012, 2:06am
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I'm sure MANY would disagree that he removed the mundane parts
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 7:31pm
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Magpie
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 10 2012, 8:04pm
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aha!
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Magpie
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Nov 10 2012, 8:48pm
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Of course it is formulaic cliche
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 8 2012, 11:56pm
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Not every character has to, but it's important that the main characters do
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 1:06am
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In the book Aragorn is a main character
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 10 2012, 3:36am
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Aragorn
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macfalk
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Nov 10 2012, 10:18am
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Your opinion
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 10 2012, 5:51pm
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RE: Aragorn and Faramir
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 6:57pm
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Exactly
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macfalk
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Nov 11 2012, 12:26pm
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I understand your opinion
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 11 2012, 5:43pm
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Nobody here used those words
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starlesswinter
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Nov 11 2012, 6:57pm
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starless
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 11 2012, 7:42pm
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Re: change
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starlesswinter
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Nov 12 2012, 2:19am
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But too many character arcs in an ensemble
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 12 2012, 3:05am
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True, but...
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starlesswinter
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Nov 12 2012, 3:28am
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Agreed
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 12 2012, 3:59am
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I'm not insulted at all
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 11 2012, 8:19pm
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Sorry, I did not mean to come across that way
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starlesswinter
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Nov 12 2012, 2:13am
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No worries - it didn't bother me at all! {NT}
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 12 2012, 2:14am
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You can't be talking about me surely
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 11 2012, 6:47pm
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I wasn't calling you it specifically
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macfalk
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Nov 11 2012, 9:39pm
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Then again...
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macfalk
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Nov 8 2012, 9:00am
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Aragorn is a better man than the Mouth
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 8 2012, 9:19am
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Good point about Beregond.
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Macfeast
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Nov 8 2012, 1:21pm
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Gimli isnt too bad in FOTR
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imin
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Nov 8 2012, 2:34pm
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Well put imin
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DanielLB
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Nov 8 2012, 3:22pm
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I only remember Gimli burping once...
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Elutherian
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Nov 11 2012, 3:34am
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as regards Gimli
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Elenorflower
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Nov 8 2012, 5:28pm
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This is something that gets at me too
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GoodGuyA
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Nov 8 2012, 6:03pm
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Amen
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starlesswinter
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Nov 8 2012, 8:09pm
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why not create something original then?
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Sinister71
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Nov 8 2012, 9:54pm
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Because you can love something and not think EVERYTHING is well done
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 1:25am
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All or nothing at all
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dreamflower
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Nov 9 2012, 4:49pm
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I don't think
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GothmogTheBalrog
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Nov 9 2012, 4:56pm
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"I meant to do that."
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acheron
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Nov 9 2012, 5:02pm
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Calvin & Hobbes?
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Bombadil
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Nov 9 2012, 10:02pm
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Fanon I like that... LOL
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Sinister71
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Nov 9 2012, 10:03pm
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RE: Gandalf and Bree
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 1:12am
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Re: Gandalf and Bree
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dreamflower
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Nov 10 2012, 2:22am
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Re: Time
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 7:03pm
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But he did not have Shadowfax when he left the Shire
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dreamflower
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Nov 10 2012, 8:29pm
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Honestly I don't think it's something most people even notice
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 11:42pm
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Probably not. But I did.
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dreamflower
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Nov 11 2012, 5:05am
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