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Lightice
Lorien
Nov 10 2012, 12:13am
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Goblins and orcs are the same thing. Note the name of Gandalf's sword, Orcrist and its English translation, Goblin-Cleaver. Goblin is just an English translation of orc. I expect that the movies will mix the two terms pretty liberally.
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Goblin/Orc connection?
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YaznegSouth40
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Nov 9 2012, 8:42pm
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We don't know for certain I don't think.
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Nov 9 2012, 8:48pm
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Tolkien used the term interchangeably
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Sinister71
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Nov 9 2012, 10:09pm
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yeah he used them interchangeably earlier on, however I'm pretty (but not 100%) that by the LOTR he referred to goblins as being a bit different to Orcs
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Xanaseb
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Nov 10 2012, 12:02am
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Goblin/Orc Distinguished
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chrism628
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Nov 9 2012, 10:21pm
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Orc domination
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YaznegSouth40
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Nov 9 2012, 10:35pm
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However....
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YaznegSouth40
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Nov 9 2012, 10:38pm
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I'm excited too
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Sinister71
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Nov 10 2012, 3:48am
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In the movie, Gandalf will assure Bilbo (spoilers)
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burgahobbit
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Nov 9 2012, 10:33pm
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Well, here's the thing:
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Lightice
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Nov 10 2012, 12:13am
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Music to my ears
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Elthir
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Nov 10 2012, 4:49am
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Orc is just another word for goblin
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 10 2012, 3:28am
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My personal almost biological solution
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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Nov 10 2012, 6:03pm
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But there were no "goblins" referenced in the LOTR films
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 10 2012, 6:56pm
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Not in every translation
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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Nov 10 2012, 7:02pm
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It seems in PJ's films, all Goblins are Orcs, but not all Orcs are Goblins...
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Captain Salt
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Nov 10 2012, 7:10pm
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The Misty Mountains ones work best for me
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 10 2012, 7:12pm
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Oh but there is
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ForestPark
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Nov 10 2012, 11:29pm
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Goblin-men
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GothmogTheBalrog
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Nov 11 2012, 2:50am
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There is an old saying..
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ForestPark
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Nov 11 2012, 3:43am
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LOL///
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Bombadil
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Nov 11 2012, 1:00pm
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No actually he says "goblins".
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Tim
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Nov 11 2012, 3:43am
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You speak that with which I agree
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Elthir
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Nov 11 2012, 2:53pm
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I think the terms are interchangeable
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totoro
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Nov 11 2012, 7:02pm
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They are interchangeable
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 11 2012, 7:32pm
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"Orc" of course being
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GothmogTheBalrog
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Nov 12 2012, 4:40am
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That's true
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Elthir
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Nov 12 2012, 12:42pm
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Tolkien's note to the third edition Hobbit
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Elthir
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Nov 11 2012, 10:39pm
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by the way...
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Elthir
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Nov 11 2012, 10:57pm
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Film canon
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Elthir
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Nov 11 2012, 1:24am
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