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Sinister71
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Nov 8 2012, 9:54pm
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why not create something original then?
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Exactly. That's actually what I think purists forget when they watch the films. Is it not better to base an adaptation around key emotional beats and important decisions/conflicts with real heart and depth than it is to have everything included? Too often book-to-film adaptations become a case in which fans go the theatre with a personal checklist of "Things From the Book." A film is supposed to be an experience of emotion, not an I-Spy game. If this is the case Why take a book dissect it and change characters and events of something that is loved by many people. IMO anyways having a bit of reverence for the source material and just making minor tweaks to it would be a better adaptation instead of outright changes. If the story they are adapting isn't the story they want to tell maybe they should think about writing an original script instead of taking someones life's work, hacking it up, to create a tale that while similar does not have the same feel and tone of the source material. When I see a film based on a book i expect to see the elements of that book on the screen not as an I-spy but as the way the story unfolds in the book that I love. The situations that I cared about when reading the tale. Not some made up nonsense that while might be entertaining to the general movie going audience its not what was in the source material and is just fan fiction forced into a story where it really has no place. Whats the use in changing things just for the sake of changing them if you aren't getting the tone, feel, and character correct in what you are supposedly adapting? If you feel the need to change what was written because it wasn't good enough to work on film, write something original have a bit of respect for the author who wrote the book, and leave it alone. Instead of worrying about lining your pocket on something based on a great literary work of art. I wouldn't say I am a purist but someone who thinks minor tweaking is good or small variations are ok but total changes from character and tone should never be done when you are calling something an adaptation, Based on is a whole different issue but they weren't claiming LOTR was "based on" JRR Tolkien's book they were portraying it as a faithful adaptation. Which was close but it could have been closer and still been entertaining and successful
LOTR was a great set of films flawed in many places. When Peter Jackson stuck to what Tolkien wrote they were fantastic films but when he made up his own content for the sake of being entertaining or humorous they fell way short IMO of the rest of the films. Had he stuck to the books with minor tweaking I think they would have been much better adaptations and been just as successful.
(This post was edited by sinister71 on Nov 8 2012, 10:01pm)
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Can someone explain to me this need for every character to be lordly and proper all the time?
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starlesswinter
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Nov 8 2012, 7:09am
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This might be moved over to the board for the trilogy, as it seems to be more relevant to those films
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MatthewJer18
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Nov 8 2012, 7:14am
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Completely Agree on this!
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Elutherian
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Nov 8 2012, 7:50am
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Film Gimli is nothing like his book self
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DanielLB
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Nov 8 2012, 8:11am
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If you prefer
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 8 2012, 8:27am
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Aragorn is the perfect example of a character who had no need
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 8 2012, 8:58am
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It's not a formulaic cliche - it's what storytelling/character is entirely about
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starlesswinter
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Nov 8 2012, 7:56pm
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What people tend to forget about LotR
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GoodGuyA
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Nov 8 2012, 11:13pm
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will and self-mastery and maybe ...
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Escapist
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Nov 8 2012, 11:29pm
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I think what all this boils down to...
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 6:28pm
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LOTR
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 10 2012, 6:51pm
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LOTR in no way resembles your life?
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Magpie
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Nov 10 2012, 7:09pm
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Magpie after Moving to the Shire in my Mind's Eye
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Bombadil
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Nov 10 2012, 8:57pm
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When a friend I made in Tolkien died unexpectedly...
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Magpie
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Nov 10 2012, 9:54pm
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Magpie! ...Goldberry will be waiting to Meet you..
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Bombadil
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Nov 11 2012, 1:28am
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for you...
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Magpie
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Nov 11 2012, 1:37am
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A wonderful post
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 11 2012, 2:06am
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I'm sure MANY would disagree that he removed the mundane parts
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 7:31pm
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Magpie
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 10 2012, 8:04pm
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aha!
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Magpie
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Nov 10 2012, 8:48pm
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Of course it is formulaic cliche
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 8 2012, 11:56pm
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Not every character has to, but it's important that the main characters do
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 1:06am
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In the book Aragorn is a main character
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 10 2012, 3:36am
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Aragorn
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macfalk
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Nov 10 2012, 10:18am
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Your opinion
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 10 2012, 5:51pm
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RE: Aragorn and Faramir
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 6:57pm
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Exactly
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macfalk
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Nov 11 2012, 12:26pm
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I understand your opinion
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 11 2012, 5:43pm
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Nobody here used those words
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starlesswinter
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Nov 11 2012, 6:57pm
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starless
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 11 2012, 7:42pm
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Re: change
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starlesswinter
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Nov 12 2012, 2:19am
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But too many character arcs in an ensemble
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 12 2012, 3:05am
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True, but...
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starlesswinter
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Nov 12 2012, 3:28am
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Agreed
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 12 2012, 3:59am
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I'm not insulted at all
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 11 2012, 8:19pm
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Sorry, I did not mean to come across that way
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starlesswinter
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Nov 12 2012, 2:13am
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No worries - it didn't bother me at all! {NT}
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Nov 12 2012, 2:14am
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You can't be talking about me surely
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 11 2012, 6:47pm
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I wasn't calling you it specifically
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macfalk
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Nov 11 2012, 9:39pm
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Then again...
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macfalk
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Nov 8 2012, 9:00am
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Aragorn is a better man than the Mouth
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ElendilTheShort
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Nov 8 2012, 9:19am
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Good point about Beregond.
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Macfeast
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Nov 8 2012, 1:21pm
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Gimli isnt too bad in FOTR
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imin
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Nov 8 2012, 2:34pm
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Well put imin
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DanielLB
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Nov 8 2012, 3:22pm
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I only remember Gimli burping once...
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Elutherian
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Nov 11 2012, 3:34am
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as regards Gimli
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Elenorflower
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Nov 8 2012, 5:28pm
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This is something that gets at me too
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GoodGuyA
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Nov 8 2012, 6:03pm
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Amen
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starlesswinter
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Nov 8 2012, 8:09pm
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why not create something original then?
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Sinister71
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Nov 8 2012, 9:54pm
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Because you can love something and not think EVERYTHING is well done
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 1:25am
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All or nothing at all
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dreamflower
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Nov 9 2012, 4:49pm
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I don't think
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GothmogTheBalrog
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Nov 9 2012, 4:56pm
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"I meant to do that."
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acheron
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Nov 9 2012, 5:02pm
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Calvin & Hobbes?
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Bombadil
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Nov 9 2012, 10:02pm
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Fanon I like that... LOL
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Sinister71
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Nov 9 2012, 10:03pm
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RE: Gandalf and Bree
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 1:12am
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Re: Gandalf and Bree
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dreamflower
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Nov 10 2012, 2:22am
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Re: Time
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 7:03pm
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But he did not have Shadowfax when he left the Shire
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dreamflower
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Nov 10 2012, 8:29pm
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Honestly I don't think it's something most people even notice
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starlesswinter
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Nov 10 2012, 11:42pm
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Probably not. But I did.
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dreamflower
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Nov 11 2012, 5:05am
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