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Elthir
Grey Havens
Oct 15 2012, 2:16pm
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Regarding actual combat, in one of his last notes on the history of this pair, Tolkien describes Galadriel and Celeborn fightng heroically to defend Alqualondë when Fëanor and his crusaders turn up (Unfinished Tales, "History of Galadriel & Celeborn"). This implies that Galadriel could swing a sword or use a bow. This is true. Although I find something interesting about this revision, noting first that in this late version Galadriel is not part of the Noldorin Rebellion but just happens to be at Swanhaven when Feanor attacks (it might also be noted that Tolkien already had Galadriel defending Swanhaven, when she was 'still' in the Rebellion of the Noldor). What I find interesting is that in this very latest version Tolkien appears to have desired to remove Galadriel from the Rebellion because he wants to make her 'unstained' at this point (probably forgetting that he had already published that she was a leader in the Rebellion in any case). And the so called 'revision' is with respect to Galadriel's initial entrance into the tale of the Elder Days in the early 1950s, where she takes no part in the battle of Swanhaven, as the children of Finarfin simply arrive too late to do anything (the 1977 Silmarillion of course makes no mention of Galadriel defending Swanhaven). This ultimately means that Tolkien's 'unstained' Galadriel is now going to fight, and not against orcs or any other monsters of Morgoth, but against other Elves. Did Galadriel in fact slay Elves; or was her heroic 'fight' of a purely defensive nature? However Tolkien saw Galadriel's defense he is also possibly thinking, at least in some measure here, of the Virgin Mary (considering his late letter to Lord Halsbury on making Galadriel unstained, if I recall correctly), and I sometimes wonder if he was actually putting Elven blood on Galadriel's hands here, as it would seem, I admit, even in the defense of the Teleri. OK it's not really about the film. It's just my annoying aside. Wait... there's a film!?
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Galadriel and The Battle Of Dol Guldur
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BornOutOfTheWest
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Oct 12 2012, 3:19pm
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Wellcome!
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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
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Oct 12 2012, 3:37pm
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I'd be happy for Galadriel to destroy Dol Guldur during The Hobbit
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DanielLB
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Oct 12 2012, 3:42pm
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Me too
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dubulous
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Oct 12 2012, 4:02pm
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Same here //
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Groppe
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Oct 12 2012, 4:49pm
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There is some mentioning in the movies
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Beren0nehanded
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Oct 12 2012, 5:56pm
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I wanted more though!
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DanielLB
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Oct 12 2012, 6:17pm
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Agreed!
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Beren0nehanded
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Oct 12 2012, 6:23pm
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I wouldn't assume that the Hobbit Trilogy (spoilers) -
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Hanzkaz
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Oct 12 2012, 7:35pm
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I think that there will be more as well,
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painjoiker
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Oct 12 2012, 10:26pm
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How to show the power of wizards and elves without making it look tacky?
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Estel78
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Oct 12 2012, 11:44pm
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Replace these kung fu masters with Elrond, Galadriel and Gandalf
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Carne
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Oct 12 2012, 11:51pm
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That's a good question
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dubulous
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Oct 13 2012, 5:38am
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I don't want flashy power magic either
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DanielLB
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Oct 13 2012, 10:09am
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I agree...
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Elthir
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Oct 13 2012, 11:09pm
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What was it
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Oct 13 2012, 11:53pm
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I think Elthir is simply commenting on
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Oct 14 2012, 4:09am
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Actually...
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Elthir
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Oct 14 2012, 4:55am
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I can't say that I agree
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Oct 14 2012, 8:41am
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Well...
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Elthir
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Oct 14 2012, 7:46pm
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The big question is........
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Eye's on Guard
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Oct 14 2012, 12:23am
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Most definitely! /
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DanielLB
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Oct 14 2012, 9:31am
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Please Eru, nooooo!
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Felagund
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Oct 14 2012, 9:31am
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For Galadriel to seem like the most potent force of magic imaginable whilst poor
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AinurOlorin
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Oct 15 2012, 3:23am
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The Istari are guides
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Fardragon
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Oct 15 2012, 6:41am
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It is Galadriel that cleanses Dol Guldur in Tolkien's work though? /
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DanielLB
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Oct 15 2012, 7:16am
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the quote, and Galadriel as warrior
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Felagund
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Oct 15 2012, 8:01am
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Or cast a fireball?
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Fardragon
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Oct 15 2012, 9:01am
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The Galadriel / Lúthien & Dol Guldur / Tol-in-Gaurhoth parallel
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Felagund
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Oct 15 2012, 9:32am
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Something like this...
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Joe20
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Oct 15 2012, 9:46am
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I can imagine Galadriel doing something similar.
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DanielLB
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Oct 15 2012, 11:25am
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Yeah, I think this is most likely.
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Fardragon
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Oct 15 2012, 11:18am
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Galadriel dealing death?
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Elthir
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Oct 15 2012, 2:16pm
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Galadriel the 'unstained' defender
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Felagund
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Oct 15 2012, 4:15pm
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Nerwen's path
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Elthir
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Oct 15 2012, 8:49pm
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respect for the lore!
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Felagund
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Oct 15 2012, 10:15pm
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And yet PJ did show a cheesy fireball
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irodino
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Oct 13 2012, 4:34pm
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I really liked that fireball
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Tim
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Oct 14 2012, 3:50am
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tempting but no
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Felagund
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Oct 13 2012, 9:19am
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This line...still not digging it
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Vangalad
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Oct 12 2012, 4:29pm
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It may have just been a blip in Boyens' memory
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DanielLB
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Oct 12 2012, 4:50pm
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Indeed, she's excused
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Vangalad
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Oct 12 2012, 5:28pm
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Having our cake and eating it too...
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Otaku-sempai
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Oct 12 2012, 11:23pm
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That would work nicely
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DanielLB
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Oct 13 2012, 9:55am
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