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My take

Aitieuriskon
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Oct 11 2012, 5:39pm


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1.) When I picture Bard I see a very rugged man in a long, weathered padded archer's tunic, boots, with jet black hair and a mustache worn long in Celtic fashion. He's dressed the same as all the other Laketown guards, but stands out because of his expression (I always imagined it as a somewhat goofy-looking scowl) and the way he holds himself; more noble and austere in comparison to the rest of the guards, who have let themselves go soft. He's in a guardsman's attire, not the tattered ranger-gear Aragorn wears, and I always envisioned him as a bit more hygienic than the Dunedain of Arnor (though I would bet Girion's line had a drop of Numenorean blood somewhere in it, despite the distance from the sea).

2.) I liked the somewhat barbaric attire of the R&B Bard even though it clashed a bit with the rest of Laketown, which is supposed to be a bustling center of trade rather than a dark age hillfort where the men cling to some memory of Roman dress (military boot-sandals, short tunic) but revert to the age-old cloak and fur vest clasped with big silver status-symbols. It's a cool spin on the king-in-exile motif, but I think the outfit needs to be more of a uniform and distinguished somehow from the garb of the Rohirrim, Gondorians, and Easterlings. Though having potential connections to all these peoples, I think Dale and Laketown deserve their own style (which they appear to be doing right going off what was revealed in vlog 8).

3.) I always envisioned Smaug as being a bit more reptilian than the R&B version. Although Tolkien must have drawn much inspiration for the dragon from the one in Beowulf, I don't see Smaug as the serpentine creature from that poem (I think Alan Lee's Smaug is suitable as a rendition of Beowulf's dragon more so than Smaug himself). As much as the high fantasy genre has milked the giant, horned, red dragon look, I still think Smaug should fall under this category.
The one thing they got perfect in the animated film was the fire: beginning as boiling slaver dripping from his mouth, and shooting out looking like proper flame rather than a standard hollywood fireball explosion. There should be something otherworldly about it; the part in the book where Smaug lands on the summit of the mountain in a big gout of flame always gave me the impression that Smaug's fire was somehow more than just some sort of oral flamethrower. It behaves in a certain way, a difficult thing to describe.

4.) I'm sure the black arrow will be a weapon of particular beauty considering the effort weta puts into all its props. I imagine it will bear either very dwarven or elven characteristics, a gift from one of those races.


"After all, I believe that legends and myths are largely made of 'truth', and indeed present aspects of it that can only be received in this mode; and long ago certain truths and modes of this kind were discovered and must always reappear." Professor Tolkien, 1951

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**In the beginning was the Rankin Bass Hobbit, Part 10-- Kill the Beast!"** weaver Send a private message to weaver Oct 11 2012, 3:53am
    Bard and Smaug ... neither of them look very good ... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Oct 11 2012, 7:20am
    Answers Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Oct 11 2012, 7:28am
        Smaug is actually quite red in the movie. The pic in the OP may be from AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 11 2012, 9:53pm
            Forgot to add AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 11 2012, 10:54pm
                Smwarg?// Eye's on Guard Send a private message to Eye's on Guard Oct 11 2012, 11:02pm
                    I actually always liked that the dragon was more like some fierce creature out of a AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 11 2012, 11:38pm
                Why is Smaug a flying cat? // painjoiker Send a private message to painjoiker Oct 11 2012, 11:03pm
                that is quite a furry thing Valandil ed Imladris Send a private message to Valandil ed Imladris Oct 12 2012, 9:52am
                    If it was Mithril, it wouldn't be black... Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Oct 12 2012, 12:23pm
                        well, they could paint the arrow Valandil ed Imladris Send a private message to Valandil ed Imladris Oct 12 2012, 1:42pm
                            Just like the Maltese Falcon Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Oct 12 2012, 4:43pm
    I like them ! Ffnir Send a private message to Ffnir Oct 11 2012, 7:40am
    The Black Arrow. Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Oct 11 2012, 8:43am
        This DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Oct 11 2012, 9:05am
            The black arrow was forged by dwarves and its made of Mithril! Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Send a private message to Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Oct 12 2012, 7:02am
        toothpick grinman Send a private message to grinman Oct 11 2012, 1:12pm
            You can explain that in the book Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Oct 11 2012, 2:58pm
                I don't think so... grinman Send a private message to grinman Oct 11 2012, 5:37pm
        Something like... Phibbus Send a private message to Phibbus Oct 11 2012, 1:34pm
            I'll be really disappointed if this doesn't happen! / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Oct 11 2012, 1:38pm
    Hmm... Ardamr Send a private message to Ardamr Oct 11 2012, 10:06am
    I've said it before and I'll say it again guitarzankansasfan Send a private message to guitarzankansasfan Oct 11 2012, 10:52am
    I've always been partial to this movie, so my answers won't surprise... dalecooper Send a private message to dalecooper Oct 11 2012, 2:08pm
    Responses Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Oct 11 2012, 2:51pm
    Could a possible explanation of the power of the black arrow... Ffnir Send a private message to Ffnir Oct 11 2012, 4:34pm
        Since that's all part of The Silmarillion, it wont apply to the new films. DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Oct 11 2012, 4:48pm
    My take Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Oct 11 2012, 5:39pm
        Hey! grinman Send a private message to grinman Oct 11 2012, 6:15pm
            My guess Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Oct 11 2012, 7:41pm
    Bard ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Oct 11 2012, 7:52pm
    oliphants Valandil ed Imladris Send a private message to Valandil ed Imladris Oct 11 2012, 10:53pm
        I always felt Lake Town had a rather germanic feel Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Oct 12 2012, 7:40am

 
 
 

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