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DwellerInDale
Rivendell
Oct 11 2012, 12:52pm
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Here is another, very simple way to resolve many of these seeming contradictions: AUJ ends just after the spider battle in Mirkwood. In a previous thread I also mentioned the trailer scene where Radagast, clearly inside Rhosgobel, warns of a "dark power". The question was and is, who is he speaking to? Gandalf? But Gandalf doesn't come near Mirkwood/Rhosgobel until after the break that everyone is assuming (just after the eagle rescue). In that thread I theorized that he might even be speaking to Legolas and Tauriel, as messengers from Thranduil-- that would give them a reason to go patrolling Mirkwood in the first place. I wrote that those two could then go "kick some serious spider butt"; now that the Lego set ads are out, that prediction seems to be accurate. Thus emboldened, here is an updated theory:
- If the first movie ends after the spider battle, wherein it is actually Legolas and Tauriel who kill most of the spiders, then we have a nice triple cliffhanger: Tauriel, Legolas, and the rest of the Elves capture the Dwarves and lead them away; Bilbo, using the ring, is left behind in agony of what to do; and Gandalf and Radagast, over at Rhosgobel, are attacked by the spider(s).
- Bilbo has his climactic moment, as he kills his spider and names his sword Sting.
-This assumption of AUJ ending at the Carrock has always seemed rather weak, dramatically. Plus there is now all this merchandise, from both Bridge Direct and Lego, featuring Legolas and Tauriel, and the spider battle. Are people really going to spend $30-$60 for Christmas gifts based on characters that aren't in the movie? The kids will be so confused that the parents will have to go spend another $20 on GI Joe with Kung-Fu Grip or something to make up for it. The lame explanation for all the toys has been that they were made, and marketing plans set in place, long before the decision to expand to 3 movies. But how difficult would it really have been to delay the release of those products?
-This theory doesn't contradict the new official poster: Barrels Out of Bond is still cut from AUJ and will now be seen in DOS. Mirkwood never appeared in either poster.
-The only thing contradicting this theory is that the names Orlando Bloom and Evangeline Lilly no longer appear on the "official" website. But that could easily be explained: the website is after all run by the financing company (Warner Bros.) overseeing the production company (New Line) supervising the film company (Wingnut) that is making the movies. When Peter Jackson pitched the 3 film idea to Warner Bros. in July, they no doubt wanted to know immediately how he would now break up the films. At that point in time he could have indicated "after the eagles' rescue", and WB's advertising department ran with it. But Jackson should have the freedom to break the films where he wishes, so the web site information should not be taken as the last word.
-Thoughts?
(This post was edited by Ataahua on Oct 11 2012, 6:18pm)
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Attack on Rhosgobel?
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LordElrond
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Oct 11 2012, 6:30am
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The thing breaking into Rhosgobel is ...
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DanielLB
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Oct 11 2012, 7:14am
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Interesting
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LordElrond
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Oct 11 2012, 8:06am
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There's many options
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DanielLB
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Oct 11 2012, 8:16am
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How about this?
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Fardragon
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Oct 11 2012, 8:35am
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That seems likely ... why didn't I think of that?! /
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DanielLB
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Oct 11 2012, 9:08am
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Highly doubt he'll say that
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stoutfiles
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Oct 11 2012, 11:47am
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But something like that?
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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Oct 11 2012, 12:14pm
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Can he outwardly dislike Radagast, but still be overall "nice"?
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DanielLB
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Oct 11 2012, 12:23pm
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It would seem unlikely
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stoutfiles
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Oct 11 2012, 12:54pm
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In the book it wouldn't make sense
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DanielLB
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Oct 11 2012, 1:00pm
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And after all Saruman is Radagasts head of order...
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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Oct 11 2012, 1:19pm
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You don't have to like someone in order to work with them!
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Fardragon
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Oct 11 2012, 2:39pm
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LOL!!
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LordElrond
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Oct 11 2012, 9:05am
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Additional
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Oct 11 2012, 11:18am
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An Updated Theory
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DwellerInDale
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Oct 11 2012, 12:52pm
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But it would contradict the new banner and cast list...
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Aitieuriskon
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Oct 11 2012, 1:02pm
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Same explanation,
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DwellerInDale
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Oct 11 2012, 1:31pm
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No, because L&T never made it onto the scroll
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Aitieuriskon
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Oct 11 2012, 1:36pm
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Again, same explanation.
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DwellerInDale
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Oct 11 2012, 2:12pm
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Sorry, Dweller, but I think you are in denial...
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Otaku-sempai
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Oct 11 2012, 2:26pm
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If Peter Jackson made such an announcement,
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DwellerInDale
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Oct 11 2012, 2:54pm
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Nothing on PJ's Facebook page...
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Otaku-sempai
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Oct 11 2012, 3:41pm
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The app also
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Lacrimae Rerum
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Oct 11 2012, 6:26pm
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He probably talks to all his animal friends
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Fardragon
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Oct 12 2012, 7:32am
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